Replaced my 500 with the 505 - Page 2

MikeF74 · 10-04-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by boca

Refresh Rate... I could see absolutely no difference in time between page turns. The 505 treats the refresh differently to the 500, but it still seems to take as long.

I'm surprised people haven't jumped all over this bit. I would expect page turns to be faster with the Vizplex screen. Perhaps the additional greyscales makes page turning just as fast as the old unit.

Boca, do you still have both units? If you can, I'd be interested in seeing a video of them side-by-side doing pageturns.

darkstar · 10-05-2007, 12:38 AM

I just came home and opened the delivered box for the 505. I was worried about the page turns being the same speed as my 500 - but the 505 seems almost twice as fast ( sigh of relief )

boca · 10-05-2007, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by darkstar

I just came home and opened the delivered box for the 505. I was worried about the page turns being the same speed as my 500 - but the 505 seems almost twice as fast ( sigh of relief )

Now I am going to get paranoid...
Would refresh rate have anything to do with numbers of books on the reader?
When I tested I had 110 on the 505 but only 1 on the 500.

Mr. Goodbar · 10-05-2007, 08:49 AM

I haven't noticed significant difference in page turn speeds either. It seems about the same to me. I've done side by side comparisons of the same book on the same page and the speed is nearly identical. Page turn was never a big deal for me. Coming from an iliad I found the page turn speed to be fantastic!

boca · 10-05-2007, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeF74

I'm surprised people haven't jumped all over this bit. I would expect page turns to be faster with the Vizplex screen. Perhaps the additional greyscales makes page turning just as fast as the old unit.

Boca, do you still have both units? If you can, I'd be interested in seeing a video of them side-by-side doing pageturns.

I have taken some video, and am waiting on a confirmation e-mail from Utube, which I have just joined.

Never done this before, so bear with me and hopefully you can see for yourself shortly.

NatCh · 10-05-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by boca

Now I am going to get paranoid...

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Originally Posted by Mr. Goodbar

I haven't noticed significant difference in page turn speeds either.

Are either of you using embedded fonts? That slows page turn down considerable ....

HarryT · 10-05-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Goodbar

I haven't noticed significant difference in page turn speeds either. It seems about the same to me. I've done side by side comparisons of the same book on the same page and the speed is nearly identical. Page turn was never a big deal for me. Coming from an iliad I found the page turn speed to be fantastic!

I don't regard page turn speed to be an issue either, but I'm interested to read your comments about the iLiad. I've found the page turn speed to be pretty much the same on the Reader and the iLiad. Are you using the Mobi viewer on your iLiad, or reading PDFs?

Mr. Goodbar · 10-05-2007, 01:17 PM

I sold the iLiad before mobipocket was released. My reference point was pdf which was definitely slower. I thought the iLiad was a great device and bought it when it was first released expecting to ultimately get a suspend feature. When it became apparent that would not happen I decided to move to the Sony.

For these devices to be successful they really need to eliminate the technology from the users perception. Having to wait a minute for a device to turn on became frustrating for me, particularly when traveling on international flights where I will typically start and stop my reading frequently.

I really like the content delivery service for the iLiad and if they can improve the hardware side I think they will have a winning customer experience and I'll probably buy another one.

Mr. Goodbar · 10-05-2007, 01:27 PM

In regards to embedded fonts, I see the same page turn performance between the 500 and 505 when just changing pages in the book lister. As I said, it's not really a big issue for me since I found the page turning speed to be adequate. I just hit the button part way through the last sentense. All in all I really like the 505. The thinner size, better screen and new layout is a plus for me and the device just feels overall more refined. The simple change with collections, goto page feature and book sorting were enough to sway me. At first glance I wasn't sure the screen was a big difference, but after using it more in different lighting conditions the change is welcome. It particular helps in lower light environments.

boca · 10-05-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NatCh

Are either of you using embedded fonts? That slows page turn down considerable ....

Nope... I compared Orwell's 1984 bought from Sony Connect on both machines.
If UTube ever send me that e-mail to confirm my e-mail address then I will post some video

NatCh · 10-05-2007, 02:21 PM

Well both of those ought to be apples to apples comparisons -- I dunno what's going on then.

anotherchance · 10-05-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by boca

Nope... I compared Orwell's 1984 bought from Sony Connect on both machines.
If UTube ever send me that e-mail to confirm my e-mail address then I will post some video

Awaiting your video with baited breath, and I have a couple of questions too.

My 505 is on its way to me, with the AC adapter following along a day or so behind. Will it require charging before it can be used, or does it come fully-juiced?

If it is juiced-up, can it be turned on and used "straight out of the box" without hooking up to a PC and registering? Does it come with any content pre-loaded that could be used immediately?

NatCh · 10-05-2007, 02:48 PM

The 500's generally came at least partly charged, and with some sample excerpts on them.

I'd assume the partial charge thing will hold true, but I don't think anyone's commented on the samples yet.

You shouldn't need to hook it up to anything to use it -- many folks have been using 500's for months who don't even own a PC, so ....

Mr. Goodbar · 10-05-2007, 04:22 PM

Mine came partially charged. You can just plug it into a usb port to charge with the included cable. It does come preloaded with excerpts from a number of books and I believe a full copy of Wuthering Heights if memory serves me correctly. You can also just copy files over to an SD or Memory Stick and plug it in. Enjoy.

JSWolf · 10-05-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Goodbar

Mine came partially charged. You can just plug it into a usb port to charge with the included cable. It does come preloaded with excerpts from a number of books and I believe a full copy of Wuthering Heights if memory serves me correctly. You can also just copy files over to an SD or Memory Stick and plug it in. Enjoy.

The 500 came with a few full books including a Star Trek book. I think what they give you now is basically useless.

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10-05-2007, 12:38 AM	#17
darkstar Enthusiast Posts: 25 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2007 Device: sony 500 505, kindleDX,KA1	I just came home and opened the delivered box for the 505. I was worried about the page turns being the same speed as my 500 - but the 505 seems almost twice as fast ( sigh of relief )

10-05-2007, 08:49 AM	#19
Mr. Goodbar Wizard Posts: 1,005 Karma: 98078 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Mini 4	I haven't noticed significant difference in page turn speeds either. It seems about the same to me. I've done side by side comparisons of the same book on the same page and the speed is nearly identical. Page turn was never a big deal for me. Coming from an iliad I found the page turn speed to be fantastic!

10-05-2007, 01:17 PM	#23
Mr. Goodbar Wizard Posts: 1,005 Karma: 98078 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Mini 4	I sold the iLiad before mobipocket was released. My reference point was pdf which was definitely slower. I thought the iLiad was a great device and bought it when it was first released expecting to ultimately get a suspend feature. When it became apparent that would not happen I decided to move to the Sony. For these devices to be successful they really need to eliminate the technology from the users perception. Having to wait a minute for a device to turn on became frustrating for me, particularly when traveling on international flights where I will typically start and stop my reading frequently. I really like the content delivery service for the iLiad and if they can improve the hardware side I think they will have a winning customer experience and I'll probably buy another one.

10-05-2007, 01:27 PM	#24
Mr. Goodbar Wizard Posts: 1,005 Karma: 98078 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Mini 4	In regards to embedded fonts, I see the same page turn performance between the 500 and 505 when just changing pages in the book lister. As I said, it's not really a big issue for me since I found the page turning speed to be adequate. I just hit the button part way through the last sentense. All in all I really like the 505. The thinner size, better screen and new layout is a plus for me and the device just feels overall more refined. The simple change with collections, goto page feature and book sorting were enough to sway me. At first glance I wasn't sure the screen was a big difference, but after using it more in different lighting conditions the change is welcome. It particular helps in lower light environments.

10-05-2007, 02:21 PM	#26
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Well both of those ought to be apples to apples comparisons -- I dunno what's going on then.

10-05-2007, 02:48 PM	#28
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	The 500's generally came at least partly charged, and with some sample excerpts on them. I'd assume the partial charge thing will hold true, but I don't think anyone's commented on the samples yet. You shouldn't need to hook it up to anything to use it -- many folks have been using 500's for months who don't even own a PC, so ....

10-05-2007, 04:22 PM	#29
Mr. Goodbar Wizard Posts: 1,005 Karma: 98078 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: iPad Mini 4	Mine came partially charged. You can just plug it into a usb port to charge with the included cable. It does come preloaded with excerpts from a number of books and I believe a full copy of Wuthering Heights if memory serves me correctly. You can also just copy files over to an SD or Memory Stick and plug it in. Enjoy.

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