Problem with adding .mobi files

Bowman · 12-26-2011, 07:24 PM

Hey all,
I'm trying to load my very large library of .mobi books (1000+) from my computer to the Fire. I used Calibre to upload them. I've used my computer to explore the kindle's documents folder and everything appears to be right. But the kindle doesn't seem to be able to handle it. I've turned the kindle on and off, etc. But no matter what, I have the same 2 problems: A) it isn't displaying all of the books and B) for those that have loaded, it's displaying a gray rectangle rather than the cover and when I select the book, it zooms in on the cover, then returns me to the docs screen. As if it's beginning the process of showing the book, then aborting. Anyone have any ideas about what I might have done wrong? Or is the kindle just not able to support such a large document library?

Shack70 · 12-26-2011, 07:32 PM

I would guess it is trying to index all the books, why not add them in smaller chunks?

famousboot · 12-26-2011, 07:40 PM

I've seen this posted, to get mobi books to show up in the Carousel:

"To get sideloaded books to show up in the carousel you need to remove the pdoc tag from the mobi book."

So far the mobi files I've run across have readily shown up though, no pdoc tag removal necessary.

sparklemotion · 12-26-2011, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by famousboot

"To get sideloaded books to show up in the carousel you need to remove the pdoc tag from the mobi book."

For some of my books I also had to add the ebok tag in place of the pdoc tag or they wouldn't show under books.

ratkity · 12-26-2011, 08:15 PM

Once you replace the pdoc tag, you have to reconvert to mobi. Yes, do a mobi > mobi. THEN, and this is important, go in Calibre and remove the oldmobi files and any other file types except the mobi you just made. There's a great batch command to do this to all 1000 books after you select them all (alt-a).

Some of my books were old old converts from various formats. I just used Calibre to create a cover for it when I couldn't find one online (especially for old, unpopular books).

Good luck!

Hugs,
Ratkity

Bowman · 12-26-2011, 08:26 PM

Thanks! Trying the pdoc replace fix now. Hopefully it works

Skydog · 12-26-2011, 09:45 PM

All of my converted .mobi books contain the [PDOC] tag and they all display normally on the bookshelf AND the carousel.

Blossom · 12-26-2011, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shack70

I would guess it is trying to index all the books, why not add them in smaller chunks?

The Kindle Fire does not index books like a Eink Kindle.

It's possible there is a limit on how many books the Fire can handle.

You could try a factory reset and adding them in smaller chunks like the Poster quoted said. It could be choking for other reasons or it could be a limit.

sparklemotion · 12-26-2011, 10:33 PM

I know in the storage specs they state you can fit 6,000 books on the fire (assuming that was all you put on it) so I'm sure it's able to handle a large amount. I would do as Shack and Blossom said and try putting them on in smaller packs. Good luck.

salsaguy · 12-27-2011, 01:39 AM

One thing i read recently as a tip for having books show up is to make sure there is no spaces in the filename.

Blossom · 12-27-2011, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salsaguy

One thing i read recently as a tip for having books show up is to make sure there is no spaces in the filename.

That isn't necessary on the Kindles. All my books have filenames like this.

Author - [Series 01] - Title.mobi

They show up fine on my K3, K4 and Kindle Fire.

hn333 · 12-28-2011, 02:45 PM

Does anyone know how to remove the [PDOC] tag without having to re convert it?

frankz · 12-28-2011, 05:01 PM

You can use the mobi2mobi gui to edit that specific exth entry (change 501 CDEContentType from PDOC to EBOK)

https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kind...oks_on_Windows

JSWolf · 12-28-2011, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparklemotion

For some of my books I also had to add the ebok tag in place of the pdoc tag or they wouldn't show under books.

How do you do that?

Also, if I convert from ePub to Mobi using Calibre, is there any issue?

hn333 · 12-28-2011, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankz

You can use the mobi2mobi gui to edit that specific exth entry (change 501 CDEContentType from PDOC to EBOK)

https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kind...oks_on_Windows

Thanks, I'll check it out.

12-26-2011, 07:24 PM	#1
Bowman Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle Fire	Problem with adding .mobi files Hey all, I'm trying to load my very large library of .mobi books (1000+) from my computer to the Fire. I used Calibre to upload them. I've used my computer to explore the kindle's documents folder and everything appears to be right. But the kindle doesn't seem to be able to handle it. I've turned the kindle on and off, etc. But no matter what, I have the same 2 problems: A) it isn't displaying all of the books and B) for those that have loaded, it's displaying a gray rectangle rather than the cover and when I select the book, it zooms in on the cover, then returns me to the docs screen. As if it's beginning the process of showing the book, then aborting. Anyone have any ideas about what I might have done wrong? Or is the kindle just not able to support such a large document library?

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12-26-2011, 07:32 PM	#2
Shack70 Guru Posts: 775 Karma: 1043626 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: York, Pa Device: Kindle Fire 10", Honor 8 Android Phone	I would guess it is trying to index all the books, why not add them in smaller chunks?

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famousboot Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle Fire	I've seen this posted, to get mobi books to show up in the Carousel: "To get sideloaded books to show up in the carousel you need to remove the pdoc tag from the mobi book." So far the mobi files I've run across have readily shown up though, no pdoc tag removal necessary.

12-26-2011, 08:15 PM	#5
ratkity Enthusiast Posts: 34 Karma: 37892 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Old Sony, Kindle 3G, Kindle Fire	Once you replace the pdoc tag, you have to reconvert to mobi. Yes, do a mobi > mobi. THEN, and this is important, go in Calibre and remove the oldmobi files and any other file types except the mobi you just made. There's a great batch command to do this to all 1000 books after you select them all (alt-a). Some of my books were old old converts from various formats. I just used Calibre to create a cover for it when I couldn't find one online (especially for old, unpopular books). Good luck! Hugs, Ratkity

12-26-2011, 08:26 PM	#6
Bowman Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle Fire	Thanks! Trying the pdoc replace fix now. Hopefully it works

12-26-2011, 09:45 PM	#7
Skydog Wizard Posts: 2,243 Karma: 7400001 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Circling Earth @ Mach .83 Device: Elipsa 2E, Sage, Forma, Libra 2, Clara 2E, Kindle Oasis3, Voyage	All of my converted .mobi books contain the [PDOC] tag and they all display normally on the bookshelf AND the carousel.

12-26-2011, 10:33 PM	#9
sparklemotion dangerous when cornered Posts: 1,855 Karma: 22891237 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: USA Device: Kobo H2O, Kindle Paperwhite	I know in the storage specs they state you can fit 6,000 books on the fire (assuming that was all you put on it) so I'm sure it's able to handle a large amount. I would do as Shack and Blossom said and try putting them on in smaller packs. Good luck.

12-27-2011, 01:39 AM	#10
salsaguy Addict Posts: 381 Karma: 30500 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle Fire (1st Gen), Kindle Touch, KFHD 8.9 No Ads	One thing i read recently as a tip for having books show up is to make sure there is no spaces in the filename.

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hn333 Addict Posts: 255 Karma: 316188 Join Date: Jul 2011 Device: Kindle, Kindle Fire	Does anyone know how to remove the [PDOC] tag without having to re convert it?

12-28-2011, 05:01 PM	#13
frankz Member Posts: 23 Karma: 10078 Join Date: Nov 2011 Device: Kindle Fire	You can use the mobi2mobi gui to edit that specific exth entry (change 501 CDEContentType from PDOC to EBOK) https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kind...oks_on_Windows

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