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Old 07-31-2012, 01:03 PM   #136
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:07 PM   #137
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LOL ...very good. Love it. All that Bananaware. Hmmm... I think it's time to fire up the TARDIS and get me some copyrights.
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:32 PM   #139
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Old 07-31-2012, 02:22 PM   #141
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:30 PM   #142
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Isn't the waiting for the new release something that happens before each new release? Wouldn't the analysts factor this in?
Yeah, but people were expecting a bigger release last time, including analysts. People wanted an iPhone 5, but they were given a 4S. Any time something doesn't get a full major version, but rather something that is seen as more of an update, they are hesitant. That's why Microsoft never really publicly announces the full version name for Windows, and instead uses names for the public. NT4 was the last time they did that. Windows 2000 is 5.0, XP is 5.1, 2003 is 5.2, Vista is 6.0, Windows 7 is 6.1, Win8 is 6.2. If people saw that, they'd think hardly anything has changed.
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Yeah, but people were expecting a bigger release last time, including analysts. People wanted an iPhone 5, but they were given a 4S. Any time something doesn't get a full major version, but rather something that is seen as more of an update, they are hesitant. That's why Microsoft never really publicly announces the full version name for Windows, and instead uses names for the public. NT4 was the last time they did that. Windows 2000 is 5.0, XP is 5.1, 2003 is 5.2, Vista is 6.0, Windows 7 is 6.1, Win8 is 6.2. If people saw that, they'd think hardly anything has changed.
Yes, it's all perception. But they way they present it is a branding decision.
The change of branding happened when the version to follow Window 3.11 was "Windows 95".
Remember also the version of MS Word that followed 2.0 was 6.0, so they are not beyond outright making up of numbers if that's what they thought people cared about.

Along the same lines, I suspect Firefox did it's "1 major version per week" thing a few months back for no other reason then to get to a higher version number than IE.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:00 PM   #145
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This is exactly why the Kindle Fire did not work for me. I need storage. Cloud is great, cool. But I need entertainment when there is no Internet.
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Yeah, but people were expecting a bigger release last time, including analysts. People wanted an iPhone 5, but they were given a 4S. Any time something doesn't get a full major version, but rather something that is seen as more of an update, they are hesitant. That's why Microsoft never really publicly announces the full version name for Windows, and instead uses names for the public. NT4 was the last time they did that. Windows 2000 is 5.0, XP is 5.1, 2003 is 5.2, Vista is 6.0, Windows 7 is 6.1, Win8 is 6.2. If people saw that, they'd think hardly anything has changed.
Interesting point, but I would have expected the analysts to make a new prognosis after they found out that it wasn't going to be a bigger release.
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Yes, it's all perception. But they way they present it is a branding decision.
The change of branding happened when the version to follow Window 3.11 was "Windows 95".
Remember also the version of MS Word that followed 2.0 was 6.0, so they are not beyond outright making up of numbers if that's what they thought people cared about.

Along the same lines, I suspect Firefox did it's "1 major version per week" thing a few months back for no other reason then to get to a higher version number than IE.
Actually, it had nothing to do with IE. They were playing keep up with Chrome, which just released version 21. Beginning of 2011, Firefox was on 3.5, and Chrome was on 8.0. February, Chrome released 9.0, March saw 10.0, 11 in April, 12 in June, etc. So, in response, March Firefox shipped 4.0, 5 in June, 6 in August, etc. Firefox is now at v14

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Interesting point, but I would have expected the analysts to make a new prognosis after they found out that it wasn't going to be a bigger release.
They still expected it to sell because it was Apple, plus with all of the world talking about Steve Jobs. The iPhone was nicknamed the Jesus phone for a reason.
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Actually, it had nothing to do with IE. They were playing keep up with Chrome, which just released version 21. Beginning of 2011, Firefox was on 3.5, and Chrome was on 8.0. February, Chrome released 9.0, March saw 10.0, 11 in April, 12 in June, etc. So, in response, March Firefox shipped 4.0, 5 in June, 6 in August, etc. Firefox is now at v14
Maybe it was a combination. If it was only for Chrome, why would they have stopped so much short of Chrome's number? Also, no one is under the impression that Chrome is a venerable and long-proven browser. Everyone knows it's sort of the new kid on the block.
Also, until you mentioned it, I had no idea what version Chrome was on, even though I use it every day. Chrome does not feature it's number as part of it's brand like IE does, so I don't see why Firefox would have been compelled to match them.

Anythehoo....
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Maybe it was a combination. If it was only for Chrome, why would they have stopped so much short of Chrome's number? Also, no one is under the impression that Chrome is a venerable and long-proven browser. Everyone knows it's sort of the new kid on the block.
Also, until you mentioned it, I had no idea what version Chrome was on, even though I use it every day. Chrome does not feature it's number as part of it's brand like IE does, so I don't see why Firefox would have been compelled to match them.

Anythehoo....
They've not really stopped doing it though. Chrome had a head start on them with the version craziness, being 5 full version numbers ahead at the time of Mozilla's change. Firefox is releasing a new version about every month and a half, with version 17 slated to ship on November 20th.
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