Thomas Covenant Novels - Stephen Donaldson

Kevin2960 · 12-08-2011, 08:31 AM

Many years ago ... No not a cheesey Novel ...

I read some of the Thomas Covenant Novels by Stephen Donaldson and I'd rather like to re-read them and read the ones I missed,

Have found a very old thread on this site, where it appears they were not yet available as eBooks,

Has this changed ? are they now available in kindle or ePub format ? and if so where ?

DiapDealer · 12-08-2011, 08:38 AM

As far as I know, the first six books are still not available as ebooks anywhere.

Stormchild · 12-08-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

As far as I know, the first six books are still not available as ebooks anywhere.

LEGALLY anyways.

Kevin2960 · 12-09-2011, 01:12 PM

Yeah sort of thought that was the case, and I prefer to stay Legal ... However tempting LOL !

kennyc · 12-22-2011, 07:25 AM

I don't think so, but I loved those books!

caleb72 · 12-22-2011, 07:29 AM

I would snap them up if they came out digitally (legally). I want to re-read them and then read the final trilogy.

DiapDealer · 12-22-2011, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by caleb72

I would snap them up if they came out digitally (legally). I want to re-read them and then read the final trilogy.

I'm a huge fan of the originals. The latest chronicles (which is four books) has disappointed me greatly. He should have left the series alone. It already had a good ending.

Sometimes you can't go back home.

aecardenas · 01-30-2012, 07:52 PM

Stephen R. Donaldson is a really good writer...but is it me or does he seems to have an inordinate amount of rape and misogynistic themes through his work? THe few books i've read of his (The Real Story, Forbidden Knowledge, The Mordent's Need, and Lord Foul's Bane)...there is this underlying misogynistic theme that persists...it's just a little off putting.

Belfaborac · 01-30-2012, 08:51 PM

I can't say the term misogyny ever occurred to me while reading any of his books. Yes, there are rapes, but none of the victims are ever, as far as I can recall, portrayed as deserving of their mistreatment, or as having brought it on themselves. On the contrary, the perpetrators are portrayed as evil or amoral bastards (or in the case of Thomas Covenant, a deeply dysfunctional and thoroughly broken man), placing the blame exactly where it ought to rest. So no, for me it doesn't tick any of the boxes which would indicate misogyny.

aecardenas · 01-30-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Belfaborac

I can't say the term misogyny ever occurred to me while reading any of his books.

Perhaps misogynistic is too strong a word and probably even the wrong word in regards to the author. But when I read The Real Story, I couldn't help feeling that i was subjected to one man's utter depravity against one woman, and for no other reason than the writer wanted it that way. An entire book filled with constant rape and physical abuse...I felt similarly when I read Stieg Larsen's Men Who Hate Women (translated into the much softer and slicker sounding The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo), and i found myself wondering is this the author making a thematic point about how our culture allows men to thoroughly objectify women to the point where they become nothing more than objects of not only of desire...or was i seeing something dark seeping out of the unconscious mind of the writer. Perhaps a combination of both. Who can say for sure, i suppose.

As a writer myself, I can't help but notice certain recurring themes and elements appear throughout my work whether i like it or not, and which inevitably become part of the DNA of the book itself, like the cement between the bricks, or the nail in the coffin, and you can't remove it without the whole thing coming apart.

Belfaborac · 01-31-2012, 01:40 PM

I see what you're saying, at least sort of, but I can't really see the problem. The last thing I want as a reader is a world where all books shy away from portraying the world, or a world, the way it all too often is; where all stories are *shudder* "motivational", have clear-cut happy endings and where evil always receives its just deserts.

Whether the evil, malice or brutality in a book emerges from something brewing in the dark recesses of the authors mind, or just from his or her imagination, is something I've never given a thought. Partly because it would be merely baseless supposition on my part and partly because it really isn't my business to know.

12-08-2011, 08:31 AM	#1
Kevin2960 YODA's Uglier Twin Posts: 974 Karma: 6295251 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Leicester, UK Device: PRS-600 and 2 Kindle 3's - and now a K4 + HTC Desire HD	Thomas Covenant Novels - Stephen Donaldson Many years ago ... No not a cheesey Novel ... I read some of the Thomas Covenant Novels by Stephen Donaldson and I'd rather like to re-read them and read the ones I missed, Have found a very old thread on this site, where it appears they were not yet available as eBooks, Has this changed ? are they now available in kindle or ePub format ? and if so where ?

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12-08-2011, 08:38 AM	#2
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,549 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	As far as I know, the first six books are still not available as ebooks anywhere.

12-09-2011, 01:12 PM	#4
Kevin2960 YODA's Uglier Twin Posts: 974 Karma: 6295251 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Leicester, UK Device: PRS-600 and 2 Kindle 3's - and now a K4 + HTC Desire HD	Yeah sort of thought that was the case, and I prefer to stay Legal ... However tempting LOL !

12-22-2011, 07:25 AM	#5
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,872 Karma: 118716293 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	I don't think so, but I loved those books!

12-22-2011, 07:29 AM	#6
caleb72 Indie Advocate Posts: 2,863 Karma: 18794463 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia Device: Kindle	I would snap them up if they came out digitally (legally). I want to re-read them and then read the final trilogy.

01-30-2012, 07:52 PM	#8
aecardenas Kafkaesque Posts: 104 Karma: 1149770 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: California Device: Kindle	Stephen R. Donaldson is a really good writer...but is it me or does he seems to have an inordinate amount of rape and misogynistic themes through his work? THe few books i've read of his (The Real Story, Forbidden Knowledge, The Mordent's Need, and Lord Foul's Bane)...there is this underlying misogynistic theme that persists...it's just a little off putting.

01-30-2012, 08:51 PM	#9
Belfaborac Wizard Posts: 1,498 Karma: 5199835 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Norway Device: Sony PRS-505, PRS-950	I can't say the term misogyny ever occurred to me while reading any of his books. Yes, there are rapes, but none of the victims are ever, as far as I can recall, portrayed as deserving of their mistreatment, or as having brought it on themselves. On the contrary, the perpetrators are portrayed as evil or amoral bastards (or in the case of Thomas Covenant, a deeply dysfunctional and thoroughly broken man), placing the blame exactly where it ought to rest. So no, for me it doesn't tick any of the boxes which would indicate misogyny.

01-31-2012, 01:40 PM	#11
Belfaborac Wizard Posts: 1,498 Karma: 5199835 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Norway Device: Sony PRS-505, PRS-950	I see what you're saying, at least sort of, but I can't really see the problem. The last thing I want as a reader is a world where all books shy away from portraying the world, or a world, the way it all too often is; where all stories are shudder "motivational", have clear-cut happy endings and where evil always receives its just deserts. Whether the evil, malice or brutality in a book emerges from something brewing in the dark recesses of the authors mind, or just from his or her imagination, is something I've never given a thought. Partly because it would be merely baseless supposition on my part and partly because it really isn't my business to know.

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