Fictionwise SF Sale!

Lemurion · 03-16-2009, 07:47 PM

March is SF Month at Fictionwise:

They're giving 30% off all multi-format SF and 30% rebate (Paypal/CC) for all secure SF until the end of the month.

(Funnily enough they announced it on a week with no new secure format SF).

Elfwreck · 03-16-2009, 10:10 PM

At first I thought, "that can't be right... Ellison's Deathbird Stories is sitting in my cart, waiting for either a discount or me to have more money to spare for books"... and then I realized that Deathbird Stories has been categorized as "mainstream."

Erm... mythology about deities no human culture has ever directly worshiped is "mainstream?" Ooookay.

AnemicOak · 03-16-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Elfwreck

At first I thought, "that can't be right... Ellison's Deathbird Stories is sitting in my cart, waiting for either a discount or me to have more money to spare for books"... and then I realized that Deathbird Stories has been categorized as "mainstream."

Erm... mythology about deities no human culture has ever directly worshiped is "mainstream?" Ooookay.

There are so many mis-catigorized books on FW (some series have 3 or 4 different books under different categories). When it was brought up on their Yahoo group they said they take the genre categories from their distributor.

Justy · 03-17-2009, 12:35 AM

People have been able to get the categories corrected by reporting them to Fictionwise. It might be worth trying so that you can get the discount on that book.

snipenekkid · 03-17-2009, 01:33 AM

wow...I have been hunting about a dozen titles so this would sure be a great time to see what is there. THANKS!!

Elfwreck · 03-17-2009, 01:40 AM

I did pick up one of the other books in my waiting list (Too Young a King, the third Syran novel, by Ellen Anthony)--purchased, went to my bookshelf, and *poof*

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We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Gah. It's a couple of hours later, and I can't get Fictionwise to load at all. I wonder if B&N is updating code or something like that.

basschick · 03-17-2009, 02:06 AM

me, too. when i go to fictionwise, i get

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JSWolf · 03-17-2009, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Elfwreck

At first I thought, "that can't be right... Ellison's Deathbird Stories is sitting in my cart, waiting for either a discount or me to have more money to spare for books"... and then I realized that Deathbird Stories has been categorized as "mainstream."

Erm... mythology about deities no human culture has ever directly worshiped is "mainstream?" Ooookay.

I'd like to suggest you don't purchase anything Ellison wrote.

http://trekmovie.com/2009/03/15/harl...ing-royalties/

Dr. Drib · 03-17-2009, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I'd like to suggest you don't purchase anything Ellison wrote.

http://trekmovie.com/2009/03/15/harl...ing-royalties/

Harlan Ellison is a creative genius who is a child. And as a person becomes older, the child becomes less charming.

He's been after money for close to 40 years - for one thing or another. While he's sought money (correctly or incorrectly) for wrongs or supposed wrongs, he's also allowed almost all of his books to be available. Many of them are now becoming available as ebooks.

Since we're offering opinions here, then here is mine: If you enjoy Ellison's work, then buy it, read him, and ignore Ellison's childish rants.

Don

HarryT · 03-17-2009, 06:36 AM

I've been a huge fan of Ellison since he went after - and successfully prosecuted - a person who uploaded his books illegally to Usenet some years ago. If more authors were willing to stand up for their rights in this way, the world would be a much better place.

HarryT · 03-17-2009, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I'd like to suggest you don't purchase anything Ellison wrote.

http://trekmovie.com/2009/03/15/harl...ing-royalties/

Er, yes, Jon? He's is claiming royalties rightfully owed on works clearly derived from his material. Do you have a problem with that?

Lemurion · 03-17-2009, 06:49 AM

I'm not planning on buying the books; I don't care for Ellison's fiction. (I'd jump all over a collection of his non-fiction - that stuff's good.) My focus is simple, if I like the books or writer I buy the authorized edition. I let the lawyers sort the claims out. As long as I've paid my share I don't worry about how the money's divided in the back end.

Not for someone like Harlan Ellison, who's more than capable of taking care of himself.

Greg Anos · 03-17-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Er, yes, Jon? He's is claiming royalties rightfully owed on works clearly derived from his material. Do you have a problem with that?

Yes, I do. Unless Mr. Ellison had a special, super-duper contract unheard-of in Hollywood at the time, his scriptwork and all the characters in it, were works-for-hire and there are no residuals owing. This has been standard Hollywood practice since sound came out. He effectively acknowledges this in his forward to his book printing of his I, Robot script.

Yes, individual contracts can be cut, but I doubt even Harlan had the clout in 1966 to get a ground-breaking one made; especially for a marginal TV show (at the time).

This is the world of Hollywood, which has no correlation to anything we think of as "reality".

HarryT · 03-17-2009, 09:32 AM

I'm sure you know as well as I do, Ralph, that Mr. Ellison has a reputation for suing people at the drop of a hat. I have no knowledge of whether or not this particular case has any justification, but given that Mr. Ellison is pursuing it, he presumably feels that it has some merit, or he wouldn't be throwing his money away on it

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Greg Anos · 03-17-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I'm sure you know as well as I do, Ralph, that Mr. Ellison has a reputation for suing people at the drop of a hat. I have no knowledge of whether or not this particular case has any justification, but given that Mr. Ellison is pursuing it, he presumably feels that it has some merit, or he wouldn't be throwing his money away on it

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Or dead gophers....

03-16-2009, 07:47 PM	#1
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03-16-2009, 10:10 PM	#2
Elfwreck Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,185 Karma: 25133758 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area, California, USA Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3 (Past: Kobo Mini, PEZ, PRS-505, Clié)	At first I thought, "that can't be right... Ellison's Deathbird Stories is sitting in my cart, waiting for either a discount or me to have more money to spare for books"... and then I realized that Deathbird Stories has been categorized as "mainstream." Erm... mythology about deities no human culture has ever directly worshiped is "mainstream?" Ooookay.

03-17-2009, 12:35 AM	#4
Justy Fanatic Posts: 547 Karma: 27509 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Greater Vancouver Area, BC, Canada Device: Nexus 7, Sony Xperia z3 tablet, Kobo Glo, Boyue T63	People have been able to get the categories corrected by reporting them to Fictionwise. It might be worth trying so that you can get the discount on that book.

03-17-2009, 01:33 AM	#5
snipenekkid Banned Posts: 760 Karma: 51034 Join Date: Feb 2009	wow...I have been hunting about a dozen titles so this would sure be a great time to see what is there. THANKS!!

03-17-2009, 01:40 AM	#6
Elfwreck Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,185 Karma: 25133758 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area, California, USA Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3 (Past: Kobo Mini, PEZ, PRS-505, Clié)	I did pick up one of the other books in my waiting list (Too Young a King, the third Syran novel, by Ellen Anthony)--purchased, went to my bookshelf, and poof The page you are trying to view is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later. We are sorry for the inconvenience. Gah. It's a couple of hours later, and I can't get Fictionwise to load at all. I wonder if B&N is updating code or something like that.

03-17-2009, 06:36 AM	#10
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I've been a huge fan of Ellison since he went after - and successfully prosecuted - a person who uploaded his books illegally to Usenet some years ago. If more authors were willing to stand up for their rights in this way, the world would be a much better place.

03-17-2009, 06:49 AM	#12
Lemurion eReader Posts: 2,750 Karma: 4968470 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: Note 5; PW3; Nook HD+; ChuWi Hi12; iPad	I'm not planning on buying the books; I don't care for Ellison's fiction. (I'd jump all over a collection of his non-fiction - that stuff's good.) My focus is simple, if I like the books or writer I buy the authorized edition. I let the lawyers sort the claims out. As long as I've paid my share I don't worry about how the money's divided in the back end. Not for someone like Harlan Ellison, who's more than capable of taking care of himself.

03-17-2009, 09:32 AM	#14
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I'm sure you know as well as I do, Ralph, that Mr. Ellison has a reputation for suing people at the drop of a hat. I have no knowledge of whether or not this particular case has any justification, but given that Mr. Ellison is pursuing it, he presumably feels that it has some merit, or he wouldn't be throwing his money away on it .