Upgrading to Kindle Paperwhite II - Page 4

Lyn2012 · 07-02-2013, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

So you are honestly happy that the PW has such a few selectable fonts, few margin choices, few line spacing choices, and basically little control of the text? I seriously doubt it.

No, I'm not at all happy with either the limited options above or the fact that the PW doesn't play nicely with Calibre. I have JB my device but it still doesn't function as smoothly with Calibre as either the Sony or Kobo readers. Another annoyance is the fact that never switching on wifi means that the clock doesn't keep correct time - clocks do NOT need internet access to keep time, this is ridiculous.

The PW is both my first and last Kindle reader and, for me, the only advantage it has is the amount of real estate devoted to text when in reading mode. Just waiting to see what the offering from Sony is this year, and whether Kobo release another 6" reader, before deciding what to buy. Even if Amazon release a new PW, I doubt very much whether they will change any of the things that would make it better for me.

I did in fact have a Kobo Glo before I bought the PW - I made the change because at the time it was impossible to dim the light on the Glo sufficiently. However, I understand this has now been rectified, so in the event of no interesting new 6" readers appearing this year, I may get another Glo. In any event, there will soon be another PW for sale on eBay.

Katsunami · 07-02-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lyn2012

Another annoyance is the fact that never switching on wifi means that the clock doesn't keep correct time - clocks do NOT need internet access to keep time, this is ridiculous.

Are you *seriously* going to tell me that *no wifi* is the reason why the clock starts going haywire once in a while? That's just...

HarryT · 07-02-2013, 10:49 AM

The Kindle's clock is reset when you reboot the device. It gets set correctly when you connect to Amazon's servers.

Katsunami · 07-02-2013, 11:18 AM

That explains it. Sometimes I need to reboot because the front-light gets stuck. It won't turn on when it's off, or won't turn off when it's on. It has something to do with the interaction between the sleep cover magnet and the on-off button. A reboot fixes this. It happened a few days ago, so I'll take a look at the clock.

HarryT · 07-02-2013, 11:20 AM

Turn on WiFi and do a "Sync and Check for Items". That'll set the clock correctly. You can turn WiFi off again then.

Katsunami · 07-02-2013, 12:53 PM

Heh. I just set the time in the settings. Does that count, or is this too low-tech?

HarryT · 07-02-2013, 12:57 PM

But you didn't set the date (there is no local option to set the date). That's why I said you needed to connect to WiFi. I don't just make these things up for my own amusement

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Katsunami · 07-02-2013, 01:41 PM

That's it. I'm going back to reading parchment....

Lyn2012 · 07-02-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Katsunami

Are you *seriously* going to tell me that *no wifi* is the reason why the clock starts going haywire once in a while? That's just...

It sounds ridiculous to me as well, but it's the answer I got when I started posting about it in forums.

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Originally Posted by HarryT

The Kindle's clock is reset when you reboot the device. It gets set correctly when you connect to Amazon's servers.

My device is not registered with Amazon and so is never connected to their servers. I fail to see why I can't just set the time manually and expect it to keep good time without accessing the internet (or Amazon) like any other device.

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Originally Posted by Katsunami

Heh. I just set the time in the settings. Does that count, or is this too low-tech?

That was my first thought, unfortunately after a few days or a week I suddenly realise that the clock is wrong, not by minutes but by many hours. This happened a number of times until I eventually gave up using the clock altogether.

Zakilephoth · 07-02-2013, 06:15 PM

I'm interested in a PW II if improvements have been made to the original's front lighting. A higher res eink screen would be a mark on the plus side as well.

Going to have to buy some form of upgrade for my K4 since I have used the page turn buttons to the point the right hand side page forward has fell off..

Blossom · 07-02-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zakilephoth

Going to have to buy some form of upgrade for my K4 since I have used the page turn buttons to the point the right hand side page forward has fell off..

That is the first I have heard of that happening.

Zakilephoth · 07-02-2013, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Blossom

That is the first I have heard of that happening.

Well I'm not sure if it was caused by of daily use over 2 years time or it was just a slip during QA checking. When I first got it, the right side page turning buttons were loose to the point they could rattle and had a spongy movement when you pressed them opposed to the left side where the buttons were stiff.

Perhaps I was sent a factory misfire?

DSpider · 07-03-2013, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

The Kindle's clock is reset when you reboot the device. It gets set correctly when you connect to Amazon's servers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

But you didn't set the date (there is no local option to set the date). That's why I said you needed to connect to WiFi. I don't just make these things up for my own amusement

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Lol. You mean that you can't manually set it? What were they thinking?? That people are too stupid to figure it out on their own? The target audience is people that read books, for heaven's sake!

mike_bike_kite · 07-03-2013, 10:12 AM

I've recently upgraded from a K2i to a KPW and I'm very impressed. I tell myself I'd like more screen space and less edge but this would probably just end up with me touching the screen when I don't want to.

I didn't think I'd like the touch screen but I now prefer this to the buttons on the k2i. It also makes the dictionary very easy to use now.

I'd like to have text to voice back but then I found the voice a bit grating - perhaps if they really improved the voice reading then that might be an advantage (to me) but I only ever used it when I was soaking in the bath.

I used to like the fact that my old one had 3G - I would always demo the k2i to sceptical folks by asking them what their favourite book was and then quickly downloading the 1st chapter. I was a bit cheap this time round and didn't go for 3G as really I never used it.

Probably the stuff I'd want more than anything else is just the active content which us poor users outside the US can't have. I'd just like to have a game of scrabble every now and then or perhaps have an interface to a chess server on the internet. A nice calender or a simple text editor would also be nice.

Maybe I'm just easy to please.

haydnfan · 07-03-2013, 10:48 AM

I don't think that there will be a new kindle this year. They pushed the tech just about as far as it can go for now. I expect in a year or two to see a liquivista kindle and in the meantime nothing.

View Poll Results: Will you be upgrading to the Paperwhite II proposed below?
Yes. Upgrading from Paperwhite.	17	22.67%
Yes. Upgrading from and old reader, or different brand.	7	9.33%
No. Have Paperwhite already. Not enough improvement.	44	58.67%
No. I haven't got a PW, but will wait until my reader breaks.	7	9.33%
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07-02-2013, 10:49 AM	#48
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	The Kindle's clock is reset when you reboot the device. It gets set correctly when you connect to Amazon's servers.

07-02-2013, 11:18 AM	#49
Katsunami Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1	That explains it. Sometimes I need to reboot because the front-light gets stuck. It won't turn on when it's off, or won't turn off when it's on. It has something to do with the interaction between the sleep cover magnet and the on-off button. A reboot fixes this. It happened a few days ago, so I'll take a look at the clock.

07-02-2013, 11:20 AM	#50
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Turn on WiFi and do a "Sync and Check for Items". That'll set the clock correctly. You can turn WiFi off again then.

07-02-2013, 12:53 PM	#51
Katsunami Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1	Heh. I just set the time in the settings. Does that count, or is this too low-tech?

07-02-2013, 12:57 PM	#52
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	But you didn't set the date (there is no local option to set the date). That's why I said you needed to connect to WiFi. I don't just make these things up for my own amusement .

07-02-2013, 01:41 PM	#53
Katsunami Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,111 Karma: 34000001 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: KPW1, KA1	That's it. I'm going back to reading parchment....

07-02-2013, 06:15 PM	#55
Zakilephoth Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 506 Join Date: Feb 2012 Device: Kindle Fire	I'm interested in a PW II if improvements have been made to the original's front lighting. A higher res eink screen would be a mark on the plus side as well. Going to have to buy some form of upgrade for my K4 since I have used the page turn buttons to the point the right hand side page forward has fell off..

07-03-2013, 10:12 AM	#59
mike_bike_kite Digitally confused Posts: 500 Karma: 1500000 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: London, UK Device: KPW, K2i, Nexus 7 32gb, Kobo Mini	I've recently upgraded from a K2i to a KPW and I'm very impressed. I tell myself I'd like more screen space and less edge but this would probably just end up with me touching the screen when I don't want to. I didn't think I'd like the touch screen but I now prefer this to the buttons on the k2i. It also makes the dictionary very easy to use now. I'd like to have text to voice back but then I found the voice a bit grating - perhaps if they really improved the voice reading then that might be an advantage (to me) but I only ever used it when I was soaking in the bath. I used to like the fact that my old one had 3G - I would always demo the k2i to sceptical folks by asking them what their favourite book was and then quickly downloading the 1st chapter. I was a bit cheap this time round and didn't go for 3G as really I never used it. Probably the stuff I'd want more than anything else is just the active content which us poor users outside the US can't have. I'd just like to have a game of scrabble every now and then or perhaps have an interface to a chess server on the internet. A nice calender or a simple text editor would also be nice. Maybe I'm just easy to please.

07-03-2013, 10:48 AM	#60
haydnfan Guru Posts: 649 Karma: 5632362 Join Date: Dec 2011 Device: Kindle PW 4, Oasis 2	I don't think that there will be a new kindle this year. They pushed the tech just about as far as it can go for now. I expect in a year or two to see a liquivista kindle and in the meantime nothing.

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