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Moreover, they've come this far, and invested so much time and effort. It would go to waste if they settled now. --Pat |
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I'm not going to stoop to your level and engage in transparently weak personal insults which are against forum policy. I will say that the patent wars are hardly over. Anyone who thinks they are is delusional. I'm not sure why one would think so. Samsung and Apple have a another big court date scheduled for late 2013-2014. The current jury verdict from this summer is terribly flawed and still in jeopardy of being thrown out or heavily reduced. And contrary to a previous post, Samsung did not withdraw their suit in Europe. They are still suing Apple for infringement and seeking compensation. They only withdrew the request to have some Apple products banned. The wars are just getting heated up. --Pat |
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They pulled the requests for injunctions in part because they are at the root of the EU's anti-trust action toward Samsung. But the lawsuits seeking compensation remain: Quote:
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Yes, the patent wars are clearly over ...
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Come on guys. Lets try to keep this thread alive.
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Was browsing Reddit and came upon a couple of articles that reminded me of this thread.
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I encourage anyone interested in this to read that Gizmodo article. He goes into a fair bit of detail about why he switched as well as what he misses about the iPhone. And then there's also this data point (which the writer accurately describes as more academic than anything): Quote:
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One thing I found interesting in the article is how Android didn't have the "bouncing" and "scroll views" in the OS because of the Apple patents. Well I believe that Apple has failed up to this day to offer home screen widgets for its iOS for the very same reason -- because they know it was first patented for Android and they can't very well go around suing Samsung (Android) if they are using some of Android's patented designs. And this just points out how questionable the US patent system is, and how stupid the whole litigation strategy is because the only one who suffers are consumers who are missing out on features in their mobile devices. Many of these things should simply not be patentable. Quote:
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There will also be a significant chunk of apps that will only ever be on Android, and never ported across to iOS, because the offer or rely on flexibility that is available in Android but not in iOS. Android is much more appealing to hobby developers because of the increased flexibility and the ease of getting new releases out to people, versus the single point of control and slow approval process for iOS. But I think that most commercial developers (for examples for games) will still develop for iOS as the primary platform and then consider an Android port, because (at least at the moment), iOS users are more profitable than Android ones, they spend a considerable amount more on apps. A Forbes article from August this year had the following numbers: Quote:
Wired put it bluntly: "Android is a desolate wasteland when it comes to games" And gaming is hugely important in revenue terms. As of March this year the numbers were: (http://www.philterdesign.com/?p=582) Quote:
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"I own a couple of Android devices and game on both of them, I've purchased over 25 games for Android as well as purchasing a load of apps as I believe in supporting devs ... To say Android on gaming is a desolate waste-land is complete hyperbole. I recently spent some time reviewing an iPhone 5 and was extremely surprised at how mediocre the selection of games was when I was promised that the iOS platform was infinitely more mature for gaming than Android. Any of the really good games had to be purchased, and were often two or three times the price of Android equivalents." From the perspective of a developer of games, it may be true that the money is in iOS as Apple users may play more games. But there are only so many developers of games out there. For every other category, a developer may be better off with Android. And perhaps that is why they are flocking more heavily to that platform. From my perspective as a mobile device user, since games are so low on the totem pole, then any edge iOS has in games over Android is totally irrelevant to me. Much more important, for example, are reading apps. And Android is far superior to iOS in that category. I guess iOS is for games ... Android is for reading! At any rate, numbers don't lie. Developers in general are heavily going for Android these days over iOS. There has to be a good reason why instead of just doing it for the sheer hell of it, particularly when it can be more difficult to program for the Android platform. --Pat |
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A greater number of apps available doesn't mean a greater number of developers, or a greater number of developers whose primary motivation is profit. I think there would be a massively larger hobby coder population for Android than iOS. [a) it is free, b) it is easier to release, c) there are many more opportunities for tweaks and customisations, d) it better fits the general hobby coder philosophy] If you are giving the app away for free, then you are less likely to bother submitting to the tight requirements and approval process of the Apple App Store. There are also whole types of app that simply can't be released for iOS, anything widgety or related to customisation. A recent IDC report shows (of those developers that IDC surveyed), iOS was still the platform of choice, although not by a massive margin. The original Forbes article was here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/darcytra...s-dont-matter/ Forbes do seem to have a rather pro-iOS, anti-Android spin on things. Quote:
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