05-05-2011, 08:55 PM | #1 | ||
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Problems creating "thin space" between nested quotes
I'd like to think that the more often I create and edit ebooks, the less I have to ask for help here... but really, I think I'm just kidding myself. Hello again!
This week's tiny adventure is trying to insert a "thin space" separator between nested quotation marks, so that Quote:
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05-06-2011, 02:46 AM | #2 |
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could be that sigil or tidy just implements it.
e.g. I know that all explicit … will vanish and all you see is the 3 dots when you next open to edit, but that means it has actually worked! maybe the same thing happens to   |
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05-06-2011, 03:00 AM | #3 |
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I am curious to see if the readers would accept the code though... Not all codes are accepted and will be replaced by question marks or boxes on some readers. I know that the … will not always display correctly.
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My opinion is that you should not introduce any kind of space between the quotes, and the spacing should be handled through font kerning instead. |
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05-16-2011, 03:47 AM | #5 |
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Hi All,
I am finding a similar problem with   in Sigil it is showing as a thin "block" character. How would I implement kerning between double and single quotes? |
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05-16-2011, 04:21 AM | #6 |
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05-16-2011, 07:03 AM | #7 |
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So, basically, there's nothing can be done to produce nice looking spacing at quotes within quotes?
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05-16-2011, 10:44 AM | #8 |
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You could create an empty transparent PNG image, and scale it to the desired size:
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“<img class="spacer" src="empty.png" alt="">‘Because,’<img class="spacer" src="empty.png" alt="">” he read. Code:
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05-16-2011, 12:53 PM | #9 | |
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without getting out a measuring tape, how much difference between printed & e-books is at issue here ? |
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05-16-2011, 01:13 PM | #10 |
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I think the basic problem is one of fonts. If the thinsp font is not present in the font set then it cannot show up. Try embedding the font and see what happens. You can reference it by number I think. Try & #8201; (only without the space between & #
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The first code sample is unreadable.
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05-16-2011, 02:16 PM | #12 |
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Instead of using nested quotes, have you thought of using italics or something? Nested quotes are not very common.
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Without getting into semantics. It all depends on what you find acceptable, whether it's spelling, grammar or visual presentation. Some books, in my humble opinion, are visually pleasing which makes the reading of them that much more enjoyable. "Luddite!" I hear you cry. Well maybe so, but how far does this dumbing down go? Who among you would accept books written like text messages. Not many I suspect. |
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Can you define "nice" in an environment where the end-user is in control of the display, & you have no control over e.g. number of characters per line.. .. to my eyes a normal space " ' is fine & it scales /justifies sensibly with all user settings. Last edited by cybmole; 05-17-2011 at 04:35 AM. |
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05-17-2011, 04:22 AM | #15 |
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Without workarounds, spacing at nested quotes would be nice.
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