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08-30-2010, 10:29 AM | #16 |
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Wow, I had a long response for this thread...lets just say I could chat for hours on the degradation of the education system in the US as well as the actual value of that education in the US to the individual.
Today, even with a larger population, work longer for less than people did with lower populations and more than needed done every day. I forget who's theory it was but if you use population as a basis the higher the population the less each person needs to do in order to contribute to a well functioning society. Leaving more time to enjoy the very small time we have left on the planet. But, sadly this is never going to come about...the globe needs that ELE to happen sooner rather than later...the worlds population is beyond recovery so it's best over sooner rather than later so whatever is next can take it's turn at running things. |
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Don't you find it rather depressing that this implies that 75% do not? Lap dancing is all well and good (and pays well), but it's only a short-term career at best, and it's important to have a good education when you move on to do something else.
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Even when was first off to college I was expected to go in a certain direction and everyone who "knew" backed it up...ultimately they never were close to right. People need the freedom to follow their inherent likes when it comes to education and career...not everyone needs a college degree nor does everyone want a college degree, some people are content to dig ditches some to build space stations...our system simply does not teach the freedom of thought to trust our own instincts. I have three university degrees, two advanced and could have gotten a 4th if I had the time and desire all in the span of 7yrs of college which included working the entire time...thing is, I only enjoyed ONE of the discipline and today am not even using that because of health related limitations. If you can't think to your best it's hard to work in the field you love. But in all the time I spent in college/university I never was taught the value of a true liberal arts education. It ALL comes from there...science without philosophy is where the true dangers lie...of course life w/o philosophy is a life that typically is a life filled with regrets and failed promise which leads to the need to sit in judgement of others if only to make ones life seem of value after all. |
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I recently read Jaron Lenier's "You are Not a Gadget." There several points where I strongly agree with him and many points where I vehemently disagree (Songles? Sheesh...). One of the points of agreement is that there are some avenues of research that ought not to be pursued for ethical reasons. The example he gives is of a recent resource intensive two year project to discover how to use a cell phone to hack a pacemaker and kill someone by remote. This project did highlight some glaring vulnerability: it created vulnerability by signalling that such a goal was obtainable. He points out that, in fact, obscurity can be good security, using the human immune system as an example. I think some of the security of Linux comes from the obscurity of any given distribution (who's gonna make a virus for Puppy Linux?). At any rate, there are so many problems that need solving and questions that need to be addressed that I think the problem of, for example, creating a form of napalm that is an even more efficient killer/disfigurer can safely be left unaddressed without worrying about stifling human creativity or curiosity.
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I have degrees in Psychology and Economics, but I'm currently working as an Accountant. Not exactly related to my studies, but my education taught me how to think, how to research, how to write, how to interact with people... and that psychology degree actually serves me well in all facets of life by giving me insight to how people think. |
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I sound bitter....lol Would you be nice and happy, if you just finished 3 year degree, and came into a job market so overloaded with people who need a job that you cannot find one. University didn't teach me anything. Everything, I learned was self-taught. All University has been good for me is having a piece of paper which says "He did this degree" to an employer. University doesn't prepare you for the job market at all. |
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Computer Science is not about how to fix computers its a huge and diverse field.
For example CS students study how computers work at the fundamental operating system and circuitry level. They study algorithms and how to create and use them to solve problems such as: efficiently searching through data, creating 'intelligent' behaviour for games, computer graphics (algorithms not MS paint) and creation of software from problem analysis to development and testing. I even used Darwins theory of evolution(AKA genetic algorithms) to solve Sudoku So don't think badly of your friend because he doesnt know how to fix a computer you can learn to do that without a degree as theres not much to learn. Theres so much that can go wrong on the software side that I.T technicians generally use formatting and disk imaging to fix the issue without understanding the problem. Any enthusiast can learn to fix a computer Sorry about the lecture a lot of people don't understand what CS is and I was feeling sorry for your friend :P Last edited by Rob87; 08-30-2010 at 05:56 PM. |
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College is not supposed to be trade school. All of the core curriculum classes expose students to a wider world than just a job.
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(Just a short administrative note...)
I have relocated this thread to The Lounge from General Discussions, as it is generally unrelated to ebooks. I have also added the "Seriously Thoughtful" tag. (There's an expiring redirect at General Discussions, so anyone going there to find it will be able to, and be redirected here) Cheers, Marc Moderator |
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