Pidgin chat client on Kindle Touch - Page 2

knc1 · 06-02-2012, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cscat

I can't get this to run! it gave an error for missing library called 'libpurple.so.0' Long story short, I finally found the ARM version in the maemo port of Pidgin. Tried it again but now gave me the following error, so I gave up:

Code:

error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Could you please upload something that works? There are so many shared libs missing?!

They may not be missing, just not have the proper naming links (sym-links).
Post a list to the ones not found, we can probably find you the corrections.

thatworkshop · 06-02-2012, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knc1

They may not be missing, just not have the proper naming links (sym-links).
Post a list to the ones not found, we can probably find you the corrections.

They are all supposed to reside in /usr/lib. I did look for them in Kindle's file system but couldn't find. here is the list of shared lib deps and thanks in advance:

Spoiler:

On a side note, there is this CenterIM that we can think about too, but the kind of app I like would be like Kindle's Media Player, running in background as I go and read books (keeping me online and beeping when a new IM is received)...

@knc1: Oh man I wish we could have a multitasking OS on the Kindles... Android or K-Tizen or whatever. I don't really like the one which Kindle has now... I see that day coming.

knc1 · 06-02-2012, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cscat

@knc1: Oh man I wish we could have a multitasking OS on the Kindles... Android or K-Tizen or whatever. I don't really like the one which Kindle has now... I see that day coming.

I am not quite sure how you are using that term: "multi-tasking" - - -
From context, I think you mean how the term is being used in the human sense, about human activities.

Linux is a true, multi-task, (concurrent) multi-user system.
Do you have SSH access installed?
If so, just keep bringing up terminals and connecting to the Kindle, see how many user sessions you can get before it runs out of memory.

Ah, but that multi-tasking isn't exposed to the user in the sense of having multiple, on-screen, activites happening.

knc1 · 06-02-2012, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cscat

They are all supposed to reside in /usr/lib. I did look for them in Kindle's file system but couldn't find. here is the list of shared lib deps and thanks in advance:

Code:

root@kindle opt# ldd pidgin2

        libdbus-1.so.2 => not found
        libdbus-1.so.3 => /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3 (0x40f77000)

That is the only one "missing" - but the way *nix libraries work (when properly built) is that the *.3 will contain the symbols of the *.2 version.
I.E: Each symbol in the library is versioned.

(The ldd command is using the current contents of ld.so.cache to resolve the locations.)

So if you don't mind modifing your root file system, just add the one missing link (naturally, with a writable root file system):

Code:

cd /usr/lib
ln -s libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-1.so.2
cd -

Then try the ldd command again.
If unchanged, you might have to re-generate the ld.so.cache file.

thatworkshop · 06-02-2012, 12:48 PM

Multi-tasking from a user point not from OS.

Oh yea did that shortly thanks knc1 and GM. This is a very poorly bundled application as now it gives another error:

Spoiler:

Anyway, I gave up as it might not worth the time for now. I just wanted to have a taste of it and test it. But I seriously think Ehhh should reconsider his way of distributing stuff both in terms of source code and bundling... and saying all these obviously with full respect to your time and energy put into these.

geekmaster · 06-02-2012, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knc1

That is the only one "missing" - but the way *nix libraries work (when properly built) is that the *.3 will contain the symbols of the *.2 version.
I.E: Each symbol in the library is versioned.

(The ldd command is using the current contents of ld.so.cache to resolve the locations.)

So if you don't mind modifing your root file system, just add the one missing link (naturally, with a writable root file system):

Code:

cd /usr/lib
ln -s libdbus-1.so.3 libdbus-1.so.2
cd -

Then try the ldd command again.
If unchanged, you might have to re-generate the ld.so.cache file.

The tcc installer script creates missing symlinks in /usr/lib just like this. It seems that amazon only bothers with symlinks that support THEIR applications. Although it is not usually a good idea to add things to the root partition, symlinks occupy so little space that adding the missing ones should be completely safe.

Although the kindles already contain some symlinks to other symlinks, some people have reported problems with creating a new symlink to another symlink, so you may want to link directly to the library itself instead of linking to another symlink.

knc1 · 06-02-2012, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cscat

Oh yea did that shortly thanks knc1 and GM. This is a very poorly bundled application as now it gives another error:

Spoiler:

Nothing you find lying around the Internet is likely to have passed strict Q.A. (including Amazon updates

).
So a bit of experimenting should be expected. (As I know, you know, but for the next reader of this thread...)

Obviously from the message, this current application is from a Nokia product.
It needs its internal messaging system names changed to work as a lab126 product. (or maybe just register the com.nokia.* stuff with the Kindles messaging system - I can't say which would be the best way to do this).

knc1 · 06-02-2012, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cscat

Multi-tasking from a user point not from OS.

That is what I guessed you meant.

It should not be that far off in the future, let the two KT terminal projects mature a bit more.

I read that JF is considering making that terminal emulator a "tabbed" multi-terminal emulator.

Maybe the other one (running under X11 graphic system) will "grow tabs" someday also.

Both would be a "tabbed" solution - I am guessing this will be easier than trying to get a multi-window, desktop (KindleTop) management system working.

The Tizen (/Samsung) project is using Enlightenment as its multi-window manager: http://www.enlightenment.org/
I imagine, stripped down a bit, but at least it is something common.

You can add e17 to your Ubuntu/Debian installation (apt-get install e17) and then when you have the greeter showing for you to login, you can select the e17 desktop.
There are a number of different "greeters" but almost all of them have a "session type" selection thingy somewhere on them.

knc1 · 06-02-2012, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knc1

You can add e17 to your Ubuntu/Debian installation (apt-get install e17) and then when you have the greeter showing for you to login, you can select the e17 desktop.
There are a number of different "greeters" but almost all of them have a "session type" selection thingy somewhere on them.

Ok, just tried my own advice, it worked.

My system: Linux Mint 12 (based on the Ubuntu package archives) -
Plus: I already had the LXDE desktop manager installed and selected as default.

Code:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install e17

Now log out of your current desktop, which will take you back the to X11 "greeter" (that login screen thing).

Depending on which greeter your running, you will find a "session type" selection thing (often a drop down box).
Select Enlightenment, then login

When E17 starts up for the first time, it will give you some selection lists -
If lost or intimidated -
Pick English, Debian, Standard and be sure to include the "configuration" icon.

Have fun.
When done, log out, re-select your usual desktop manager, log back in -
Now you are back to your "normal" desktop manager.
All you've lost is a bit of time and a chunk of disk space.

roman220 · 06-03-2012, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ehhh

Pidgin Chat client on Kindle Touch. Pidgin support protocols : AIM, Facebook, Gadu-Gadu, Google Talk, GroupWise, ICQ, IRC, MSN, MXit..

My first steps to compile and port GUI application on Kindle Touch

could you attach libpurple or build it as static? Thank you.

Pelacables · 06-04-2012, 01:53 PM

Could sombedoy install it on kindle 3 keyboard?
It seems that it need lot of X11/GTK librarys, Do I have to install an Xorg server on my Kindle?

NiLuJe · 06-04-2012, 02:32 PM

@Pelacables: It's an X11 GTK app, so, yes, that means it depends on Xorg and a WM. That means a Kindle Touch, unless you want to make a huge mess on other models (where it'd probably be easier to chroot a proper distro to achieve that).

inameiname · 06-04-2012, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ehhh

I have only KT, this is one reason, why it is difficult to support these Kindles.

No worries. I figured as much. Hard to create something for something you don't have. :P And as I don't have a KT, I can't really check this out. Hehe.

Ehhh · 06-05-2012, 04:35 AM

Hi, roman220

I added dynamic libraries in the package, but it hasn't worked properly yet.
I'm working on open issues. The script run.sh starts the pidgin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by roman220

could you attach libpurple or build it as static? Thank you.

leonard.pitzu · 06-11-2012, 12:48 PM

how do you use it? start is how? can you maka a WAF out of it (e.g. run the script and then let Pidgin take over)? i can't check it right now but the curiosity kills me this is why i'm asking. also... how about multi tasking. the kindle is ~multitasking enabled (only the mp3 player run in background while you read as far as i know)...

06-02-2012, 12:48 PM	#20
thatworkshop hub Posts: 715 Karma: 2151032 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Iranian in Canada Device: K3G, DXG, Kobo mini	Multi-tasking from a user point not from OS. Oh yea did that shortly thanks knc1 and GM. This is a very poorly bundled application as now it gives another error: Spoiler: get_current_connection_info: Failed to receive reply: The name com.nokia.icd was not provided by any .service files ./pidgin2: symbol lookup error: ./pidgin2: undefined symbol: purple_theme_loader_get_type Anyway, I gave up as it might not worth the time for now. I just wanted to have a taste of it and test it. But I seriously think Ehhh should reconsider his way of distributing stuff both in terms of source code and bundling... and saying all these obviously with full respect to your time and energy put into these. Last edited by thatworkshop; 06-02-2012 at 01:16 PM.

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Pelacables Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2012 Device: Kindle 3 Keyboard	Could sombedoy install it on kindle 3 keyboard? It seems that it need lot of X11/GTK librarys, Do I have to install an Xorg server on my Kindle?

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leonard.pitzu Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 4788 Join Date: May 2012 Device: Kindle Touch	how do you use it? start is how? can you maka a WAF out of it (e.g. run the script and then let Pidgin take over)? i can't check it right now but the curiosity kills me this is why i'm asking. also... how about multi tasking. the kindle is ~multitasking enabled (only the mp3 player run in background while you read as far as i know)...