Invisible chapter headings?

bcamp47 · 03-23-2013, 04:08 AM

I'd like Sigil to generate TOC entries for pages (such as the dedication page) without having the title actually visible on the page (ie. "Dedication" should show up in the TOC, but I don't want the word "Dedication" to be visible on the dedication page itself. I know how to add it to toc.ncx but then you loose it if you let Sigil rebuild the TOC. I've tried adding the heading tag above the body section, and it actually works, but the clean up done by Sigil prior to a save to disk removes the <h2></h2> so that
<h2><title>Dedication</title></h2>
becomes
<title>Dedication</title>
Then, of course, it disappears from the TOC the next time I re-generate it.

Any thoughts on how I can achieve what I want?

Sunlite · 03-23-2013, 04:28 AM

You can use either simply:

<h2 title="Dedication"></h2>

which should not take any space, but could. To be save you could add a style="display:none" to the heading tag.

The content of the title attribute is what Sigil will use for the TOC, if it is there. Using it is also a way to have different titles on the page and in the TOC for the same chapter.

mrmikel · 03-23-2013, 07:51 AM

Be careful with display:none when it is on a line with something else. It won't display but the space that it would have used is taken anyway, leaving blank spaces in the line. I ran into this with invisible page numbers that took up the space anyway.

Jellby · 03-23-2013, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmikel

Be careful with display:none when it is on a line with something else. It won't display but the space that it would have used is taken anyway, leaving blank spaces in the line. I ran into this with invisible page numbers that took up the space anyway.

Then that's a bug in the renderer, display:none should be completely removed from the flow. What could happen is that you see the space before and after the element, resulting in a double space, which is usually not seen in HTML. The behaviour you describe it what should happen with visibility:hidden, though.

Otherwise, I wonder if <span title="Dedication"> would work. In other words, does Sigil only consider <h1-6> tags when building the TOC or does it also consider anything with a "title" attribute? (You may also need to add an "id".)

Toxaris · 03-23-2013, 10:58 AM

You need a header tag and an id is not required. At least, it worked for me without a while ago.

mrmikel · 03-23-2013, 01:22 PM

I had a problem with my Sony 505 that way. Haven't checked it out with my 300 though.

bcamp47 · 03-24-2013, 12:38 AM

Wow.

Code:

<h2 style="display:none" title="Dedication"></h2>

works great. Thank you! I wish I'd asked sooner.

OTOH, I do feel I need to spend some time trying to work things out for myself before I ask.

03-23-2013, 04:08 AM	#1
bcamp47 Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: nook	Invisible chapter headings? I'd like Sigil to generate TOC entries for pages (such as the dedication page) without having the title actually visible on the page (ie. "Dedication" should show up in the TOC, but I don't want the word "Dedication" to be visible on the dedication page itself. I know how to add it to toc.ncx but then you loose it if you let Sigil rebuild the TOC. I've tried adding the heading tag above the body section, and it actually works, but the clean up done by Sigil prior to a save to disk removes the <h2></h2> so that <h2><title>Dedication</title></h2> becomes <title>Dedication</title> Then, of course, it disappears from the TOC the next time I re-generate it. Any thoughts on how I can achieve what I want?

03-24-2013, 12:38 AM	#7
bcamp47 Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2011 Device: nook	Wow. Code: <h2 style="display:none" title="Dedication"></h2> works great. Thank you! I wish I'd asked sooner. OTOH, I do feel I need to spend some time trying to work things out for myself before I ask.

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03-23-2013, 04:28 AM	#2
Sunlite Addict Posts: 206 Karma: 547516 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Device: KObo Clara, Kobo Aura, PRS-T1, PB602, CyBook Gen3	You can use either simply: <h2 title="Dedication"></h2> which should not take any space, but could. To be save you could add a style="display:none" to the heading tag. The content of the title attribute is what Sigil will use for the TOC, if it is there. Using it is also a way to have different titles on the page and in the TOC for the same chapter.

03-23-2013, 07:51 AM	#3
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	Be careful with display:none when it is on a line with something else. It won't display but the space that it would have used is taken anyway, leaving blank spaces in the line. I ran into this with invisible page numbers that took up the space anyway.

03-23-2013, 10:58 AM	#5
Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	You need a header tag and an id is not required. At least, it worked for me without a while ago.

03-23-2013, 01:22 PM	#6
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	I had a problem with my Sony 505 that way. Haven't checked it out with my 300 though.