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Old 09-02-2009, 04:10 PM   #16
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Old 09-03-2009, 04:46 AM   #17
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Did anyone try on the Opus?
Just tried it. The title page, table of contents, etc, are all fine, but when it comes to the actual text, the page is displayed as a tiny block in the upper left corner of the screen. It can, in fact, be read, but not very easily .
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:23 AM   #18
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I made a quick test and yes, the size at which the PDFs inside and ePUB are displayed by ADE is affected by the page size of the PDF. With a A4-size PDF, the pages are just cropped to the window size, no scaling down, no scrolling... I guess it would be the same on the Opus or other devices. This makes this "trick" currently unusable.
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:42 AM   #19
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Perhaps one might sum it up by concluding that "PDF is not an eBook format", do you think?

Interesting experiment, though. Thanks for trying it!
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:48 AM   #20
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Perhaps one might sum it up by concluding that "PDF is not an eBook format", do you think?

Interesting experiment, though. Thanks for trying it!
I'm sure most people here would--sign of the times and all.

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Old 09-03-2009, 07:51 AM   #21
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This makes this "trick" currently unusable.
I think there's a possibility this could still work with some minor manipulations to the PDFs. I should have a slow day at work today, so I'll get a chance to play around with it a little more.
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I think there's a possibility this could still work with some minor manipulations to the PDFs. I should have a slow day at work today, so I'll get a chance to play around with it a little more.
Sure, you can make it work for a particular device (screen size), if that's what you mean, but it would be unusable for other sizes, or when you change orientation. Of course, PDF is designed for a particular screen size, but it should at least be resized for other sizes, not cropped!
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I think there's a possibility this could still work with some minor manipulations to the PDFs. I should have a slow day at work today, so I'll get a chance to play around with it a little more.
I guess, unsprisingly like with HTML, it seems to be all about hoping that various commercial entities deigning to support a large enough subset of the specification.

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I guess, unsprisingly like with HTML, it seems to be all about hoping that various commercial entities deigning to support a large enough subset of the specification.
... and like PDF. Not every PDF viewer supports line-art smoothing, font hinting, transparency, bookmarks and hyperlinks, annotations, javascript...
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... and like PDF. Not every PDF viewer supports line-art smoothing, font hinting, transparency, bookmarks and hyperlinks, annotations, javascript...
Doubtless that is true. Though I'm yet to encounter a problem as such... are you yourself often plagued by them?

My inconveniences from shoddy and selective HTML implementation are rather more tangible.

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Doubtless that is true. Though I'm yet to encounter a problem as such... are you yourself often plagued by them?
Not often in "normal" ebooks, that's true, but I use Adobe reader when possible, which is the implementation that better supports most of those things. Nevertheless, I miss some features like support for Compact PDF (off-spec, I'm afraid), which could be useful for the case of this thread.

EDIT: I just tried, and with Compact PDF the PDF files went down from 14 MB to 2.6 MB...

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