Video: 17 minutes with E-Ink head of Marketing - Page 2

darknessangel · 06-30-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dulin's Books

color production is coming later in the year

Now THIS is a misinformed young chap!
Dude! There's already color readers... in japan at least (the Fujitsu Flepia), however EVEN the b/w tech is not refined yet, don't count on "later in the year" for color production.

They haven't even been able to get a large book reader on the market FFS! Don't even "dream" about color this year!.... Me, I'll just have to sin and take the apple when the iPad is released here u_u

This guy is just brainstorming, talking crap... You're not going to see that nifty plastic screen in the market for at least a year and a half! And when it comes out it will be more expensive than the rest = fail!

GJMS

Dulin's Books · 06-30-2010, 08:42 PM

Ive seen and used the Flepia. It uses a cholesteric LCD panel. This article is about e-ink technology.

At SID 2010 in Seattle last month I had the oppurtunity to speak with people from LG display. LG had a color e-ink display on hand to show. They had literally finished it the week before the show, with people from Eink actually making the waveform for it the thursday before the show.

LG added this color layer on their own using Eink film. The LG representatives told me and others in attendance that the 9.7" Color foil backed display would be in production in the 3rd quarter.

http://www.the-digital-reader.com/20...splay-week-lg/

Following that conference LG announced the new joint venture with iRiver to produce ereaders. In the press release they state the will enter the US market this year

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/06/...-us-e-readers/

Also they have already started volume production of the 11 inch foil backed b+w display that was destined for the "skiff". where it will end up?....

PVI has started production of the 9.7 inch plastic backed b+w display. The PocketBook 901 will be in production in August using that display

Im actually pretty well informed, thanks.

Ravensknight · 06-30-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dulin's Books

Im actually pretty well informed, thanks.

SMACKDOWN! very polite, but nonetheless.

Good job Dulin. You showed a lot more restraint than I would have...

darknessangel · 07-01-2010, 03:10 AM

With all respect those sound to me as pure, distilled and bottled lies! I just hope you're right. Because I've been waiting long for large readers (color can bite my beautiful behind) and appart from iRex, there hasn't been much.

Quote:

Following that conference LG announced the new joint venture with iRiver to produce ereaders. In the press release they state the will enter the US market this year

I think this sounds more like starting the legal procedures for selling. Otherwise you hear "we will sell THIS on this date!" Anything other than that, I've learned, is just an educated guess which means it can be from 6 months to 2 years.

GJMS

eLiNK · 07-01-2010, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dulin's Books

PVI has started production of the 9.7 inch plastic backed b+w display. The PocketBook 901 will be in production in August using that display

does "in production" mean available?

Cause there was a word a week ago the devices would be on the Russian/Ukrainian market in the middle September or even October.

scheichxodox · 07-01-2010, 07:36 AM

What interests me more, will the flexible screens also have the improved contrast ratio of 10:1? The new Kindle DX has such a new screen but it still seems to be based on glass substrate. If they would combine the better readability with the better durability it would be worth the wait. I have read so many threads in this forum about broken screens that I decided to wait until an unbreakable screen appears on the market. And as far as I have read here even the new Sipix screen will not be based on plastic.

Greetz

Scheich Xodox

darknessangel · 07-01-2010, 05:04 PM

mmm... I haven't had any problems with my 6" reader screen and it has had some "remarkable" close saves =P. However, now that I think a little bit more, with larger screens the stress can be evil enuff... perhaps waiting for plastic based readers for large screens is not so bad after all.

GJMS

fafaforza · 07-01-2010, 05:47 PM

I'm pretty excited. The new screens are supposed to have almost double the contrast -- which should be about perfect -- and a refresh rate good enough for some animation. Aside from color, what more would you want from an eInk device? Just hope they are as sharp as my PRS-505.

abadboy · 07-01-2010, 10:09 PM

I bought a BeBook One 18 months ago. $358.00 w\freight.
It slipped out of my hand last week and the e-ink screen was history. BeBook said they would fix it for $175..00 if I shipped it to their location in Europe.
Bought a Aluratek Libre for $139.00 at Fry's.
I hope the LCD screen can take a little tumble without shattering, but if it can't a least it won't hurt my pocketbook as bad.
I like the E-Ink screen better and if it was as indestructible as they claim I would buy it in a minute.

eLiNK · 07-02-2010, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fafaforza

I'm pretty excited. The new screens are supposed to have almost double the contrast -- which should be about perfect -- and a refresh rate good enough for some animation. Aside from color, what more would you want from an eInk device? Just hope they are as sharp as my PRS-505.

So am I.
But when are they going to be available?
The last generation Kindle DX boast a higher contrast screen, with no word said about higher refresh rates. We've been waiting for this update for almost a year.

darknessangel · 07-02-2010, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abadboy

I bought a BeBook One 18 months ago. $358.00 w\freight.
It slipped out of my hand last week and the e-ink screen was history. BeBook said they would fix it for $175..00 if I shipped it to their location in Europe...

Wrist strap! Damn, it nearly happened to me just a week after buying my 505! It clearly bounced on the floor on one corner and my heart skipped a beat... luckily nothing happened except that the volume key kinda lost its springyness but still works fine.

GJMS

yvanleterrible · 07-05-2010, 02:14 PM

We've been promised cheap flexible displays since before the iRex and Sony reader, 5 years ago.

Big manufacturers are not interested in cheap readers. They want money, lots of it and they will do all they can to block cheap displays...

Personnally I won't wait for them even if I am interested...

BenLee · 07-05-2010, 06:14 PM

Maybe one day we'll see a real version of the e-scroll reader. This screen seems flexible enough ; )

LDBoblo · 07-06-2010, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BenLee

Maybe one day we'll see a real version of the e-scroll reader. This screen seems flexible enough ; )

Those designer renders are almost always amusing, and they highlight what appears to be a nasty rift between designers and hardware/software developers in the ebook reader industry that still exists today.

yvanleterrible · 07-06-2010, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LDBoblo

Those designer renders are almost always amusing, and they highlight what appears to be a nasty rift between designers and hardware/software developers in the ebook reader industry that still exists today.

Car maker got us used to this. They have those car shows with incredible prototypes that will never be built just to sell us some stupid gas guzzling 4by4. It's a norm in any industry. "Make them dream."

06-30-2010, 08:42 PM	#17
Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	Ive seen and used the Flepia. It uses a cholesteric LCD panel. This article is about e-ink technology. At SID 2010 in Seattle last month I had the oppurtunity to speak with people from LG display. LG had a color e-ink display on hand to show. They had literally finished it the week before the show, with people from Eink actually making the waveform for it the thursday before the show. LG added this color layer on their own using Eink film. The LG representatives told me and others in attendance that the 9.7" Color foil backed display would be in production in the 3rd quarter. http://www.the-digital-reader.com/20...splay-week-lg/ Following that conference LG announced the new joint venture with iRiver to produce ereaders. In the press release they state the will enter the US market this year http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/06/...-us-e-readers/ Also they have already started volume production of the 11 inch foil backed b+w display that was destined for the "skiff". where it will end up?.... PVI has started production of the 9.7 inch plastic backed b+w display. The PocketBook 901 will be in production in August using that display Im actually pretty well informed, thanks. Last edited by Dulin's Books; 06-30-2010 at 08:56 PM.

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07-01-2010, 07:36 AM	#21
scheichxodox Zealot Posts: 131 Karma: 532654 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kindle 3 WiFi	What interests me more, will the flexible screens also have the improved contrast ratio of 10:1? The new Kindle DX has such a new screen but it still seems to be based on glass substrate. If they would combine the better readability with the better durability it would be worth the wait. I have read so many threads in this forum about broken screens that I decided to wait until an unbreakable screen appears on the market. And as far as I have read here even the new Sipix screen will not be based on plastic. Greetz Scheich Xodox

07-01-2010, 05:04 PM	#22
darknessangel Addict Posts: 297 Karma: 1018140 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: PRS-505, iPad	mmm... I haven't had any problems with my 6" reader screen and it has had some "remarkable" close saves =P. However, now that I think a little bit more, with larger screens the stress can be evil enuff... perhaps waiting for plastic based readers for large screens is not so bad after all. GJMS

07-01-2010, 05:47 PM	#23
fafaforza Zealot Posts: 140 Karma: 26780 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brooklyn, NY Device: Aura ONE	I'm pretty excited. The new screens are supposed to have almost double the contrast -- which should be about perfect -- and a refresh rate good enough for some animation. Aside from color, what more would you want from an eInk device? Just hope they are as sharp as my PRS-505.

07-01-2010, 10:09 PM	#24
abadboy Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 130 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Sony PRS-T1	I bought a BeBook One 18 months ago. $358.00 w\freight. It slipped out of my hand last week and the e-ink screen was history. BeBook said they would fix it for $175..00 if I shipped it to their location in Europe. Bought a Aluratek Libre for $139.00 at Fry's. I hope the LCD screen can take a little tumble without shattering, but if it can't a least it won't hurt my pocketbook as bad. I like the E-Ink screen better and if it was as indestructible as they claim I would buy it in a minute.

07-05-2010, 02:14 PM	#27
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	We've been promised cheap flexible displays since before the iRex and Sony reader, 5 years ago. Big manufacturers are not interested in cheap readers. They want money, lots of it and they will do all they can to block cheap displays... Personnally I won't wait for them even if I am interested...

07-05-2010, 06:14 PM	#28
BenLee eReader Junkie Posts: 304 Karma: 1220 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: New York City, NY Device: Kindle + Sony	Maybe one day we'll see a real version of the e-scroll reader. This screen seems flexible enough ; )