03-16-2012, 01:50 PM | #1 | |
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03-16-2012, 01:56 PM | #2 |
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How many times is Amazon going to do this before they finally come up with a clear and appropriate definition of what isn't allowed to be published on on the Kindle platform?
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03-16-2012, 02:14 PM | #3 |
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Remember the mantra: Amazon is my friend and will do me no harm (I hope)!
DMP has been down this road before with Amazon. Why is it surprised that Amazon selectively and arbitrarily enforces its TOS? |
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Their account has been restored. ( http://www.digitalmanga.com/blog/235...count-restored )
I'm not sure we're getting the full facts from the publisher. Manga is a Japanese comic form, and Digital Manga Inc's catalogue includes a genre called 'Yaoi' (You can view their offerings in the genre by searching for the terms "digital manga yaoi" in the kindle store currently). As for what Yaoi is: (http://www.junemanga.com/) Is this what it seems to be? I don't know. I think DMI could be treading a fine line here. Some of the characters on their covers look awfully 'young' to me. Perhaps DMI could have mentioned the word 'young' in addition to 'homosexuality' and 'erotica', you know, in the interests of full disclosure. Amazon certainly mentions explicitly that they may want to review their future offerings before publication. |
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Maybe this is one of the issues for the pub? Last edited by MrsJoseph; 03-16-2012 at 02:53 PM. Reason: additional info |
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03-16-2012, 03:08 PM | #6 |
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I don't think it's the term itself, since the books still have the word 'yaoi' in their titles on Amazon. It's probably the content. Amazon does state that they may want to review future offerings before publication.
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03-16-2012, 03:43 PM | #7 |
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I do think DMP is skating a very thin line and Amazon caught them at it. I don't blame amazon in this case.
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03-16-2012, 04:37 PM | #8 | |
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Also, is it known if Amazon was initiating this on their own or if it was triggered by complaint? I'm not sure if the gray areas exist in the actual laws or just in my mind when it comes to the fictionalization of sexual situations of what would be, were they flesh and blood, minors. Anyone clarify? |
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They look "like children" to most Americans and Europeans because Western art reserves a lot of those cartoon features for children; Japanese animation doesn't limit the drawing style the same way. |
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In my state, the original statute said that the prosecution had to prove that a real human child (under 16yo) was depicted.This turned out to be nearly impossible. Cases were acquitted and the amount of child porn available grew. Now with "virtual" porn it's even harder to determine real from fake. NJ Congressmen were given several pictures to see if they could tell which of them were real. They could not. Now the law was changed with the state Supreme Court's approval that a jury can be used ( in certain circumstances) to determine whether the pictures are of real children or not using all available evidence and testimony. Since then arrests and convictions have risen considerably. We just recently had a lawyer plead guilty to possession. The reasoning was the law now slyly and indirectly puts the burden of proof on the defendant to prove the images are fake since a jury probably will not be 100% positive the pics are real or not.
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Are the stories in this particular genre written toward an adult female audience or are they written more for what I would refer to as YA/ young adult, or mid-teens? Last edited by david_e; 03-17-2012 at 01:33 AM. Reason: grammar |
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03-17-2012, 03:29 AM | #15 |
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Yaoi was a popular "underground" Manga movement about 20 years ago that entered the main stream Manga market around the millenium. It was wildly popular among JHS and HS girls who could be seen reading them (and giggling) on commuter trains and subways. Since entering main stream (i.e. available in regular book stores and conveninece outlets) they have seen a gradual decline in interest. Younger girls today are into Pon pon kyamu kyamu (can't even begin to explain it, look it up on Youtube if you're interested). Japanophile young girls in the west is the new market for Yaoi.
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