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Old 07-16-2011, 05:13 AM   #1
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What is it called?

What is it called when an author ends chapters with "I thought things were bad, but I couldn't have been more wrong" or "... as I was about to find out, things were much more complicated"?

Would that be called foreshadowing or is there another more apt name/description?
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Old 07-16-2011, 01:27 PM   #2
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I've always called it cliffhanging.
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Old 07-18-2011, 06:42 PM   #3
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I'm with you, Mr P.
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:38 AM   #4
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It's a so-called cliffhanger.
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:49 PM   #5
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I wouldn't call the given example a cliffhanger. To me, a cliffhanger implies that the chapter ends with a character in dire straits (such as hanging from the edge of a cliff).

The example given in the opening post could be called a cliffhanger in the general sense that it's a sentence designed to hook the reader's attention and get him to turn the next page. The literary technique of hinting at events that are yet to come is called foreshadowing, but I don't know of any special terminology for foreshadowing that's positioned at the end of a chapter.
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Old 07-20-2011, 02:34 AM   #6
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Thanks Nancy. I'm going to stick to foreshadowing. That seems to be the best description of what I'm looking for.
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Old 07-20-2011, 10:58 AM   #7
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Actually Nancy might have given us all the answer. It's a hook.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:20 PM   #8
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After some further searching I found out the correct term is prognostications.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:39 PM   #9
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After some further searching I found out the correct term is prognostications.
But hook is easier to spell.
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Old 07-21-2011, 02:31 AM   #10
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True, but it doesn't quite reflect that the author is using vague references of events still to come in order to build tension.
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I've always called it cliffhanging.
Yep.

Cliffhanger or Foreshadowing...but the example is a bit too direct to really be foreshadowing which (at least to me) should be somewhat subtle.

I've always thought of "hook" in an marketing sense or book/chapter opening sense.

Hook the reader in the beginning to keep them on the line. Either as the first part of a chapter/novel or in a query letter or in an advertisement.

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Yep.
I've always thought of "hook" in an marketing sense or book/chapter opening sense.
Agreed. To me, a hook implies something placed at the opening of a chapter, not at the end.

And I'm going to remember the term 'prognostications' so I can look all erudite the next time I'm on a convention panel...
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Agreed. To me, a hook implies something placed at the opening of a chapter, not at the end.

And I'm going to remember the term 'prognostications' so I can look all erudite the next time I'm on a convention panel...
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I've always called that sort of thing ...

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Agreed. To me, a hook implies something placed at the opening of a chapter, not at the end.

And I'm going to remember the term 'prognostications' so I can look all erudite the next time I'm on a convention panel...
Then you better hope I got the terminology right. English IS my second language after all!
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