Struggling with changed split-view

MacEachaidh · 03-11-2013, 11:12 AM

I've been trying to use Sigil to clean up badly-formatted epubs, and also learn how it works because i really don't know much.

One thing I found really useful was the split-view, and especially being able to click on the text in the upper window and see in the lower window what coding had been applied to that paragraph or phrase.

But I updated my copy to 0.6.0, and now that ability is gone. I can see the hierarchical display in the lower window, and see how the amazing amount of info there would be useful to people who know better than I what they're doing, but the upper and lower windows don't seem to be actively linked at all, which seems a shortcoming.

What I would like to do is see a real-time connection between the formatted text and the visible coding, to be able to edit the CSS and see the effect, and learn to clean up the code by doing. Sigil doesn't seem to make that very easy any more. Or ... what am I missing?

mrmikel · 03-11-2013, 11:20 AM

I think you are looking for View, Preview.

MacEachaidh · 03-11-2013, 11:27 AM

No, that's what I'm saying is no longer working as it did before.

theducks · 03-11-2013, 11:40 AM

IIRC It was changed to what you see because the old way was fragile/unreliable. Sometimes it worked for me, mostly it did not

.

I just switch from BV to CV

Joining paragraphs (using the delete key) in BV introduces a visually ugly <span style= .... >.
I now have a saved search to remove this unwanted modification to the trailing text.

st_albert · 03-11-2013, 01:11 PM

And I'll suggest that you upgrade to version 0.7.1 if your platform supports it. Lots of issues regarding sync of views, and I don't know what all else, have been solved since 0.6.0.

And besides, the documentation has been updated to apply to the 0.7x series.

meme · 03-11-2013, 01:20 PM

As st_albert says, upgrade to 0.7.1 - all comments here apply to 0.7.1.

The new approach to split view is now a separate Preview window. The Preview window can be resized/undocked/moved, etc. Preview will show what your book looks like while you type in Book View and Code View or in a CSS file. It's most useful of course if you switch to Code View - then you can see what happens as you edit your code. There is no way to edit the Preview window to see what code appears - you can only edit in Book View then switch to Code View to see what code was used by Book View.

In addition, the Preview window is split into an upper and lower half. If you right click on the upper half and select Inspect Element then the lower half will sync to where you are. The lower half Inspector area is meant for deep investigation into styles, etc. if its really needed - otherwise you can drag the separator bar to make it very small to leave more room for the top preview.

03-11-2013, 11:12 AM	#1
MacEachaidh Browser Posts: 745 Karma: 578294 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura HD	Struggling with changed split-view I've been trying to use Sigil to clean up badly-formatted epubs, and also learn how it works because i really don't know much. One thing I found really useful was the split-view, and especially being able to click on the text in the upper window and see in the lower window what coding had been applied to that paragraph or phrase. But I updated my copy to 0.6.0, and now that ability is gone. I can see the hierarchical display in the lower window, and see how the amazing amount of info there would be useful to people who know better than I what they're doing, but the upper and lower windows don't seem to be actively linked at all, which seems a shortcoming. What I would like to do is see a real-time connection between the formatted text and the visible coding, to be able to edit the CSS and see the effect, and learn to clean up the code by doing. Sigil doesn't seem to make that very easy any more. Or ... what am I missing? Last edited by MacEachaidh; 03-11-2013 at 11:24 AM. Reason: Edited to amend unclear wording

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03-11-2013, 11:20 AM	#2
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	I think you are looking for View, Preview.

03-11-2013, 11:27 AM	#3
MacEachaidh Browser Posts: 745 Karma: 578294 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura HD	No, that's what I'm saying is no longer working as it did before.

03-11-2013, 11:40 AM	#4
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 29,784 Karma: 54830978 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	IIRC It was changed to what you see because the old way was fragile/unreliable. Sometimes it worked for me, mostly it did not . I just switch from BV to CV Joining paragraphs (using the delete key) in BV introduces a visually ugly <span style= .... >. I now have a saved search to remove this unwanted modification to the trailing text.

03-11-2013, 01:11 PM	#5
st_albert Guru Posts: 696 Karma: 150000 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: none	And I'll suggest that you upgrade to version 0.7.1 if your platform supports it. Lots of issues regarding sync of views, and I don't know what all else, have been solved since 0.6.0. And besides, the documentation has been updated to apply to the 0.7x series.

03-11-2013, 01:20 PM	#6
meme Sigil developer Posts: 1,275 Karma: 1101600 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle PW, K4 NT, K3, Kobo Touch	As st_albert says, upgrade to 0.7.1 - all comments here apply to 0.7.1. The new approach to split view is now a separate Preview window. The Preview window can be resized/undocked/moved, etc. Preview will show what your book looks like while you type in Book View and Code View or in a CSS file. It's most useful of course if you switch to Code View - then you can see what happens as you edit your code. There is no way to edit the Preview window to see what code appears - you can only edit in Book View then switch to Code View to see what code was used by Book View. In addition, the Preview window is split into an upper and lower half. If you right click on the upper half and select Inspect Element then the lower half will sync to where you are. The lower half Inspector area is meant for deep investigation into styles, etc. if its really needed - otherwise you can drag the separator bar to make it very small to leave more room for the top preview.

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