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That is usually the bottom line: everybody else has to live up to a standard set by a group who doesn't.
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06-02-2010, 01:36 AM | #32 |
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Penn and Teller bullshit Peta episode on youtube is a must watch.
It is not suitable for young children or small fluffy things so I will not link it, but it is easy to find and worth a watch. |
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06-02-2010, 03:24 AM | #33 | |
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Yes, but (ignoring the 'Silliness' prefix for a sec) - we live in a post-Darwinian world, where science is discovering that humans don't occupy the special place in the Universe that Christanity has espoused for millenia - how do we continue to convince ourselves that we are a special species, worthy of a higher level of ethical consideration than any other? Isn't logical consistency pointing out that, actually, we're not? Our 'ethics' seem to be rather subjective, and logic doesn't figure much in the equation. |
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- eating animals and eating humans are analogous or - considering ourselves to have a 'right' to 'rule' over nature is dumb or - considering ourselves to be above participating fully in the food chain is dumb ? (it might sound like I'm having a go - I'm not, I just saw multiple possible arguments in what you said) |
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Well what I'm struggling with is that the old distinction between 'animal' and 'human' no longer applies - humans are animals.
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Edit: Ooops, I may have misunderstood what was meant by 'participating fully' - in which case my answer may be Yes (basically we're just critters and behave as such). Last edited by Sparrow; 06-02-2010 at 03:43 AM. |
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If I'm understanding this "humans are animals" theory correctly, that puts serial killers at the top of the food chain. While I agree that 98% of the human population is little more than ambulatory bologna, that's still ridiculous. No matter how you look at it, humans are the apex predators, nature is an endless bloodbath and the animals with 4 legs, or more, lost. Want a hanky?
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However, believe it or not, there is still a significant percentage of human population that does practice cannibalism (although not for nourishment, but for spiritual or other reasons) and for them it is not only normal to eat their fellow brother in arm after he falls in a battle or an enemy whose skull they've just bashed in, but it is a social norm. Quote:
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I heard once that human flesh is the best sort of meat, because it is more nutritionally balanced for us than than the flesh of other species - dunno if that's really true, but it makes some sort of sense on the face of it.
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Have you ever eaten a carnivore?
If you have you'll remember that it probably didn't taste as good as a herbivore. If you haven't, that's the reason why you haven't. Since for humans meat represents a significant part of diet, I guess that would apply. |
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Interesting comment, fowl eat things like slugs and worms (and fed fish meal) so that would make them ominverous; 'meat' as part of their diet. Last I tried chicken / turkey was tasty .... |
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In the UK cows have been fed on sheep for decades.
Doesn't human taste like pork (hence calling it longpig)? Last edited by Sparrow; 06-02-2010 at 05:32 AM. |
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Unless you grow your own chickens, let them freely run in your backyard, and give them nothing at all to eat so they have to hunt the worms on their own, the chickens you eat are fed with something that has less than 2,5% animal stuff.
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Yeah, and we all know how that turned out.
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BSE has been mentioned - it likely wouldn't have happened if those poor animals hadn't been forced to be cannibals. Also, the sheer genius of feeding meat-based products to a herbivore is to blame as well. Whoever had that idea should be flogged. |
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