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Old 12-30-2021, 01:33 PM   #61
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In your opinion.

It is a fact that kobo dithering is prone to generate regular patterns. For me, those patterns reduce image quality.
I've seen comparisons with some pretty complex images and Kobo was better in every instance. It's not an opinion. It's a fact.
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Old 12-30-2021, 01:34 PM   #62
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Here is a side-by-side photo of the PW5 and the Libra 2. I know which one I think is better.

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In your opinion.

It is a fact that kobo dithering is prone to generate regular patterns. For me, those patterns reduce image quality.
In which firmware revision? Current firmware uses improved dithering and artifacts are not nearly as common unless I am testing one of my pathological cases.
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Here is a side-by-side photo of the PW5 and the Libra 2. I know which one I think is better.

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Libra 2 reminds me of the Oasis and I don’t like the case design
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Here is a side-by-side photo of the PW5 and the Libra 2. I know which one I think is better.

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No one has argued the Libra 2 isn't better. It's better than the Oasis 3 as well. The question was, is the Oasis 3 better than the PW5 or vice versa, or are they equal? The fact that the Libra 2 is better than both doesn't answer that question.
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[Seinfeld voice]You mention flush vs sunken, but you don't seem to be theorizing about them.[/Seinfeld voice]
Let me put on my theorizing hat:


Isn't the theory about flush screens that there is an extra layer on them that sunken screens do not have? And that each extra layer reduces the quality, even if fractionally?

And the Paperwhite using a plastic overlay vs. the Oasis using a glass one could explain why they are comparable even though they use different generation screens.
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I've seen comparisons with some pretty complex images and Kobo was better in every instance. It's not an opinion. It's a fact.
You stating that something is better does not make it a fact.

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In which firmware revision? Current firmware uses improved dithering and artifacts are not nearly as common unless I am testing one of my pathological cases.
I have no idea, the images were posted by JSWolf sometime in the past year in the PDF forum and later another set in some other forum, possibly "Which one should I buy?".
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Here is a side-by-side photo of the PW5 and the Libra 2. I know which one I think is better.

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That's a blurry, low-res photo. It doesn't say all that much about the quality, IMO. I do think that you are correct, though.
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Have a look and see what you think between the PW5 and Oasis 3.
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Let me put on my theorizing hat:


Isn't the theory about flush screens that there is an extra layer on them that sunken screens do not have? And that each extra layer reduces the quality, even if fractionally?

And the Paperwhite using a plastic overlay vs. the Oasis using a glass one could explain why they are comparable even though they use different generation screens.
What extra layer? If they are both capacitve touch, what extra layer is needed?
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Here is a side-by-side photo of the PW5 and the Libra 2. I know which one I think is better.

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this particular photo is an unfair comparison. why? look closely at the PW5 the image is blurred, only slightly, but still noticeable to my eyes.

edit. i'd like to know if the front light is off on this photo. my guess would be that's it's on at a lowish level.

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I'm very sensitive to any fuzziness and am generally amazed at how little people seem to value good sharpness in screens, favouring features instead.

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I'm flabergasted that people can't grasp the concept of different strokes for different folks.

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What extra layer? If they are both capacitve touch, what extra layer is needed?
The flat, clear layer over the top of the whole device. What mates the screen flush.
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Here is a side-by-side photo of the PW5 and the Libra 2. I know which one I think is better.

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Mostly I just think the layout of that book is lousy in both photos.
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What extra layer? If they are both capacitve touch, what extra layer is needed?
The layer that makes it seem that the display is flush.
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