Original brown leather cover Bookeen - Page 3

astra · 01-08-2008, 08:33 AM

There is a very easy test.

Anyone who is sure their cover is genuine leather, just light a match or cigarette lighter and try to "burn" your cover for 5 seconds. If nothing happened, then the cover is genuine leather otherwise it is an imitation.

NOTE. Don't do it at home, if you do it you are doing it on your own risk!

HarryT · 01-08-2008, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onemack

I agree the Bookeen cover looks and feels very good, (mine is definitely leather) and it resembles a diary. However I am a little puzzled as to why it was designed to double the thickness of the device. The Sony cover, although not leather is rather good too, but it doesn't increase the thickness of the device anywhere near as much.
John

Presumably the padding (you can feel the padding inside it) is there for increased protection. Even with the case it's still only about 1cm thick, so it doesn't make it bulky, exactly.

Ea · 01-08-2008, 09:21 AM

Hehe - that's a pretty definite test, for sure.

And, well, I couldn't resist

I cut out a small piece of the inside material - from behind the 'flap' left bottom, so it's not noticeable. Before, I was 99% sure the inside material was imitated leather - now I'm 100% sure. It's a thin layer of some foamy material with a woven backing. I've attached some photographic evidence.

And then I burned the little bit, just because. I know how synthetic fibres burn, so I was curious. It burned quickly and easily, but results are inconclusive though, as I don't have any real leather samples to test against.

Egghead · 01-08-2008, 09:33 AM

Whatever the material is in the first picture, it's not leather. Cowhide isn't woven.

tribble · 01-08-2008, 10:01 AM

Well, i supect very, very thin leather mounted on fabric to save cost. That would explain my rips in the cover.
But i will let an expert have a look at the cover and see what he says.

julia · 01-08-2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Ea_

What I do not like at all, is that Bookeen is advertising it as being genuine leather when it isn't. I don't mind nice-looking plastic, which this is, but I don't like to expect leather and receive plastic.

since the discussion started about real or not real leather. i have asked a friend who designs and makes leather bags to have a look at it. conclusion: outside is plastic inside is genuine leather (hence the smell of it). i wrote bookeen about it. haven't received an answer yet. i would think: either change your website (and price) or make sure you get the right stuff from the factory.

Gerry · 01-08-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by julia

since the discussion started about real or not real leather. i have asked a friend who designs and makes leather bags to have a look at it. conclusion: outside is plastic inside is genuine leather (hence the smell of it). i wrote bookeen about it. haven't received an answer yet. i would think: either change your website (and price) or make sure you get the right stuff from the factory.

Thanks Julia. Let us know how they respond. I was about to write them when I got my cover, but after reviewing the photos people had posted I realized that I got exactly the same cover as everyone else, and that it would probably do very little good. But I certainly think that $40 is too much to pay for a "leather" cover that is half vinyl. If I were to do it again I would spend the extra money for the leather m-edge.

Gerry

tompe · 01-08-2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerry

But I certainly think that $40 is too much to pay for a "leather" cover that is half vinyl. If I were to do it again I would spend the extra money for the leather m-edge.

How do people decide what is too much? If you compare it to what accessories usually cost I think it is relatively cheap. Especially since I had to pay 40 euro.

HarryT · 01-09-2008, 02:40 AM

I don't personally care what it's made of. It is, IMHO, a truly excellent cover.

diabloNL · 01-09-2008, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

I don't personally care what it's made of. It is, IMHO, a truly excellent cover.

If it is a plastic outside I hope it won't crack due to folding the front flap back.

diabloNL · 01-11-2008, 02:41 AM

I Dutch reseller for the Cybook got confronted by a customer who claimed that the outside of the cover was not leather but plastic. The reseller contacted Bookeen and has written the following about it on his forum:

Quote:

Navraag bij de leverancier leert dat ook zij verrast zijn dat de cover niet volgens specificatie (lees: volledig 'echt leer') gemaakt is. Dat is alleen niet naar ons gecommuniceerd.

Onze excuses en we passen direct de specificaties aan op onze website. Klanten die niet tevreden zijn over de cover kunnen uiteraard hun geld terugkrijgen.

Translated:

Quote:

After contacting the supplier we found out that also they were surprised about the fact that the cover is not according the specifications (read: 100% leather). But they didn't communicate that with us.

Please except our apologies and we will change the specifications on our website. Customers that are not satisfied about their cover can get a refund.

So it seems that Bookeen is surprised as well about the cover not being 100% leather. But they still didn't change the specifications on their website.

astra · 01-11-2008, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diabloNL

So it seems that Bookeen is surprised as well about the cover not being 100% leather.

Do you believe it?

diabloNL · 01-11-2008, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astra_lestat

Do you believe it?

I keep it in the middle.

HarryT · 01-11-2008, 07:32 AM

But what is a "leather cover"? To my mind it's one that's made primarily of leather, which this one is. No "leather case" is made entirely and exclusively of leather - there must always be other materials in it.

diabloNL · 01-11-2008, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

But what is a "leather cover"? To my mind it's one that's made primarily of leather, which this one is. No "leather case" is made entirely and exclusively of leather - there must always be other materials in it.

The customer complained that the outside was made from plastic and according to the reseller it's indeed plastic. On the website you can see that the pictures of the cover's outside have a dark brown color just like the inside. So the one diplayed there is probably made out of leather, inside and outside.

I think we can safely say that the outside it plastic and that Bookeen should update the info on their website or start selling other covers.

01-08-2008, 09:21 AM	#33
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Hehe - that's a pretty definite test, for sure. And, well, I couldn't resist I cut out a small piece of the inside material - from behind the 'flap' left bottom, so it's not noticeable. Before, I was 99% sure the inside material was imitated leather - now I'm 100% sure. It's a thin layer of some foamy material with a woven backing. I've attached some photographic evidence. And then I burned the little bit, just because. I know how synthetic fibres burn, so I was curious. It burned quickly and easily, but results are inconclusive though, as I don't have any real leather samples to test against. Attached Thumbnails

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Sell For Sale: DR1000S Brown Leather Cover	chrisgagne	Flea Market	3	07-06-2013 09:02 PM
PRS-505 Original cover of prs-505 is genuine leather or not?	milad	Sony Reader	7	05-19-2010 07:39 AM
Ended Sony PRS-505 original brown cover US	hike_gc	Flea Market	2	01-11-2010 01:09 AM
Ended Cybook w/black non-leather cover & camel leather cover	lisreed	Flea Market	3	08-12-2008 04:56 PM
Ended Bookeen brown cover for sale	pcfe	Flea Market	4	07-19-2008 09:13 AM

01-08-2008, 08:33 AM	#31
astra The Introvert Posts: 8,307 Karma: 1000077497 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500	There is a very easy test. Anyone who is sure their cover is genuine leather, just light a match or cigarette lighter and try to "burn" your cover for 5 seconds. If nothing happened, then the cover is genuine leather otherwise it is an imitation. NOTE. Don't do it at home, if you do it you are doing it on your own risk!

01-08-2008, 09:33 AM	#34
Egghead Mentat Posts: 78 Karma: 77 Join Date: Jun 2006 Device: Bookeen Gen3 Cybook	Whatever the material is in the first picture, it's not leather. Cowhide isn't woven.

01-08-2008, 10:01 AM	#35
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	Well, i supect very, very thin leather mounted on fabric to save cost. That would explain my rips in the cover. But i will let an expert have a look at the cover and see what he says.

01-09-2008, 02:40 AM	#39
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I don't personally care what it's made of. It is, IMHO, a truly excellent cover.

01-11-2008, 07:32 AM	#44
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	But what is a "leather cover"? To my mind it's one that's made primarily of leather, which this one is. No "leather case" is made entirely and exclusively of leather - there must always be other materials in it.

Advert

Advert