Cybook Gen3: Latest about supported formats, price, etc. - Page 2

tompe · 10-08-2007, 06:18 PM

Can you actually buy a service plan for Sony from Europe?

The VAT in Sweden is 25% and the custum is around 5% so buying the Sony PRS-505 for $300 will result in a cost of $395 plus cost for delivery plus $25 if you can buy a service plan.

I will probably by a Gen 3 when it is available. Does anybody know if a SDK will be available?

igorsk · 10-08-2007, 06:25 PM

There were some noises from Bookeen (or was it NAEB?) about releasing the SDK. Haven't heard any confirmation recently though.

HarryT · 10-09-2007, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tompe

Can you actually buy a service plan for Sony from Europe?

No. Buy a Sony Reader outside the US and you have, in effect, no warranty whatsoever. Sony Europe won't touch it if it goes wrong.

kacir · 10-09-2007, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tompe

Can you actually buy a service plan for Sony from Europe?

Of course you can ;-)
... all you need is a credit card with an USA billing address.
PLUS, when the Reader breaks you have to send it to USA for repairs somehow,
AND have to pay for having it sent back to Europe.

I was talking about the cost of two year warranty.
For lack of other meaningful numbers I looked at SONY, becouse there you can purchase an aditional Service, or even FOUR year Service Plus Accidental Handling Damage - for about the same money as ((350Eur) - ($350+19%VAT)).
If SONY can do a two year warranty for 25 bucks, Booken should be able to do it for similar cost.

BlackVoid · 10-09-2007, 10:22 AM

I just wrote an email to Bookeen about the EURO pricing, please do the same. And DO NOT buy in Europe until they drop the EURO price.
When will companies notice that there is a thing called exchange rate!!! When 1 EUR will be worth $100???

Ortep · 10-09-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackVoid

When 1 EUR will be worth $100???

According to some in a couple of years

http://www.ipopebooks.com/dollarcollapse.html

I'm not sure if it is also an e-book

delphidb96 · 10-09-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackVoid

I just wrote an email to Bookeen about the EURO pricing, please do the same. And DO NOT buy in Europe until they drop the EURO price.
When will companies notice that there is a thing called exchange rate!!! When 1 EUR will be worth $100???

BlackVoid,

C'mon. Be reasonable. Bookeen has to deal with the EU's VAT. That adds a tremendous burden on any retailer, so the Euro prices will always be higher. And with the Dollar tanking against other currencies, it's just going to get worse.

Derek

HarryT · 10-09-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by delphidb96

BlackVoid,

C'mon. Be reasonable. Bookeen has to deal with the EU's VAT. That adds a tremendous burden on any retailer, so the Euro prices will always be higher. And with the Dollar tanking against other currencies, it's just going to get worse.

Derek

In fairness, though, the current exchange rate is €1 = $1.41, so effectively the CyBook is 41% more expensive in Europe than in the US. The VAT rate in France is only 19.6%, which only accounts for half the difference. However you look at it, it does rather seem that we Europeans are being charged some 20% more than Americans.

A question for you, Derek: I'm signed up with NAEB. Does that mean that I will be able to buy the CyBook from you at the US price?

delphidb96 · 10-09-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

In fairness, though, the current exchange rate is €1 = $1.41, so effectively the CyBook is 41% more expensive in Europe than in the US. The VAT rate in France is only 19.6%, which only accounts for half the difference. However you look at it, it does rather seem that we Europeans are being charged some 20% more than Americans.

A question for you, Derek: I'm signed up with NAEB. Does that mean that I will be able to buy the CyBook from you at the US price?

The biggest hurdle we have at this time is what kind of shipping to use and what, if any, import duties there are while going back to Europe... Lots of gray area there which we're muddling through.

Derek

BlackVoid · 10-09-2007, 03:44 PM

I am going for the new Sony reader at $300. I will order from the US. I am rather paying the tariff than the premium for Bookeen's idiotic pricing. Are they living on this planet? On the planet I am living on, the dollar is going bust. I just hope it drops to 3 dollars for 1 EUR and all the companies who price without considering the exchange rate go out of business.

I do not care about VAT. Post the net price excluding VAT.

delphidb96 · 10-09-2007, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackVoid

I am going for the new Sony reader at $300. I will order from the US. I am rather paying the tariff than the premium for Bookeen's idiotic pricing. Are they living on this planet? On the planet I am living on, the dollar is going bust. I just hope it drops to 3 dollars for 1 EUR and all the companies who price without considering the exchange rate go out of business.

I do not care about VAT. Post the net price excluding VAT.

Can't really post the net price. That's not been set yet. And Bookeen's pricing probably is the best it can manage in Europe. Living in the US, I deal with a different set of problems and issues.

Derek

BlackVoid · 10-09-2007, 05:39 PM

Best it can manage for Europe? Thats weird. It is a european company. They can "manage" a much lower price for the US. Weird.

delphidb96 · 10-09-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackVoid

Best it can manage for Europe? Thats weird. It is a european company. They can "manage" a much lower price for the US. Weird.

I don't know this, so I'm only guessing. But I'd presume that devices built for export to the US may well be (once the firmware is finalized) flashed-in at the physical manufacturing facility and directly shipped to the US or, at most, transshipped at an 'International Warehouse' where they, 'legally', never enter Europe. That's how some items are handled here in the US.

But here again, I'm only guessing. Still, if that is the case, it may be that none of the VAT and any other duties are applied. And as I have only a vague (mis)understanding of how these things work, I could have it completely wrong - this is not, in any way, shape or form, my area of expertise.

tompe · 10-09-2007, 06:30 PM

Will the Naeb-version and the non Naeb-version differ in any way? Will I be able to do the same things on both versions?

From an European perspektive it seems much easier to buy directly from Bookeen.

penty · 10-09-2007, 07:10 PM

Yes both version will be identical, at least at first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tompe

Will the Naeb-version and the non Naeb-version differ in any way? Will I be able to do the same things on both versions?

From an European perspektive it seems much easier to buy directly from Bookeen.

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10-08-2007, 06:18 PM	#16
tompe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,452 Karma: 7185064 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Linköpng, Sweden Device: Kindle Voyage, Nexus 5, Kindle PW	Can you actually buy a service plan for Sony from Europe? The VAT in Sweden is 25% and the custum is around 5% so buying the Sony PRS-505 for $300 will result in a cost of $395 plus cost for delivery plus $25 if you can buy a service plan. I will probably by a Gen 3 when it is available. Does anybody know if a SDK will be available?

10-08-2007, 06:25 PM	#17
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	There were some noises from Bookeen (or was it NAEB?) about releasing the SDK. Haven't heard any confirmation recently though.

10-09-2007, 10:22 AM	#20
BlackVoid Evangelist Posts: 415 Karma: 510423 Join Date: Nov 2006 Device: Sony PRS-505	I just wrote an email to Bookeen about the EURO pricing, please do the same. And DO NOT buy in Europe until they drop the EURO price. When will companies notice that there is a thing called exchange rate!!! When 1 EUR will be worth $100???

10-09-2007, 03:44 PM	#25
BlackVoid Evangelist Posts: 415 Karma: 510423 Join Date: Nov 2006 Device: Sony PRS-505	I am going for the new Sony reader at $300. I will order from the US. I am rather paying the tariff than the premium for Bookeen's idiotic pricing. Are they living on this planet? On the planet I am living on, the dollar is going bust. I just hope it drops to 3 dollars for 1 EUR and all the companies who price without considering the exchange rate go out of business. I do not care about VAT. Post the net price excluding VAT.

10-09-2007, 05:39 PM	#27
BlackVoid Evangelist Posts: 415 Karma: 510423 Join Date: Nov 2006 Device: Sony PRS-505	Best it can manage for Europe? Thats weird. It is a european company. They can "manage" a much lower price for the US. Weird.

10-09-2007, 06:30 PM	#29
tompe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,452 Karma: 7185064 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Linköpng, Sweden Device: Kindle Voyage, Nexus 5, Kindle PW	Will the Naeb-version and the non Naeb-version differ in any way? Will I be able to do the same things on both versions? From an European perspektive it seems much easier to buy directly from Bookeen.

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