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It's been said (sources?) that a comedian can make a great actor, due possibly to being able to make one laugh and cry at the same time. Don Last edited by Dr. Drib; 04-24-2009 at 07:26 AM. Reason: son to so |
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Remember the uproar when Randy Newman's "Short People" was written?
"...They got dirty little minds..../they stand so low/you got to to pick them up." Thank God for Randy Newman, and for breaking down the barriers. Before his song, no one wanted to talk about the disgusting characteristics of short people. Now we know exactly WHO they are!! (NOTE: The above was an attempt at pointing out how some "sensitive" people find this song offensive, because it describes in great detail the nasty little ways of short people. I find it funny as hell. If you are a short person or you know a short person, or you saw a short person run over by a tall car, please remain calm. Buy a little bitty casket and all will be well.) SECOND NOTE: The song actually is about understanding and embracing differences, because all men [Newman writes] are brothers. Don Last edited by Dr. Drib; 04-25-2009 at 09:31 AM. Reason: changed "offense" to "offensive" |
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Now I think of it, maybe they were more jokes about concentration camps though... but still, as far as I know there aren't any other camps I could substitute and not lose the 'black humor'. |
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Sure, it doesn't always work. But most of the jokes it doesn't work for would fail my wife's "that's too offensive" detector if I were to tell them anyway. And since she does a far better job than I do at avoiding pissing people off, I normally defer to her judgement on such things. On the other hand, she doesn't mind me getting quite offensive about my own ethnic groups.
As usual, your mileage may vary. Xenophon |
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"Black humor," or "Black Comedy" was very popular in the '60s, but is not in much vogue today.
However, humor in general experiences a resurgence of interest during times of national crises or when a populace becomes downtrodden (due to inadequate "leaders" such as Bush?). Also, humor is often cyclical in nature. When all you can do is cry, sometimes you have to laugh in order to cry even more. Getting back to "Black Comedy," I enjoy humor of a dark nature, one that looks at death, bathroom antics, dead things - things that might make us uncomfortable. Lenny Bruce has already been mentioned, but also consider the later (and late) George Carlin - after his "Hippy-Dippy Weatherman" routines. There are many more one could name. I think humor that penetrates into one's obsessions and neuroses is the kind of humor that cuts deep and lasts longest, because it goes into the dark recesses of one's doubts and one's [mental] illnesses, where the shifting, coalescing shadows lurk. It scares you because it's so true, whether one talks about cats, reincarnated carpets, Zombies, Ghouls, or guts. This is the kind of humor I love: Humor that leaves a stain in your mind. Don Last edited by Dr. Drib; 04-25-2009 at 10:40 AM. Reason: changed "before" to "after" |
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To me, these are the best jokes. When you can no longer laugh at something you are a part of is when you start to blindly accept things, which I find to be a much greater sin than bad taste.
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Certain (types of) jokes I may not find funny, but I don't consider them in bad taste. I just don't find them amusing. For example, I find 95% of bathroom humor pretty bland. Probably because I'm neither embarrassed nor disgusted by bodily functions, thus it holds no shock value for me.
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I'm somewhat in agreement with you on that. BUT: I want a joke to shock the hell out of you and move you away from your comfortable niche where you knit stockings all day long in front of a lazy calico. I'm not after a "feel-good" joke: Leave that to Grandma and Grandpa. I want to touch that corpse and shove it forward into that raging night. Or, better yet - much better, in fact: get that corpse animated, whether it be feline or human, and have those dead limbs dance a crazy Cumbian tune on a windy night when the wind blows dementedly down dark alleys to touch the hidden parts of the human psyche. Or give me a lollipop - a blood-red one, please. Don |
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How are Princess Diana and a mobile phone similar? They both die in tunnels. Anything you wouldn't like to see a joke about? 9/11? Asian tsunami? Are some things just too tragic? How long after till jokes become acceptable? |
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That's a joke in bad taste. I'm rationalizing it this way due to the fact that so many people seem to admire this dead woman. I don't know her and I don't admire her, so I don't personally find the joke offensive or in bad taste. I DO, however, like it because it's in bad taste. But even if I did find it offensive to me personally, I would claim that you have the right to say it as a joke. (I like horror novels, and that's why I like jokes about ambulatory dead things.) Some people, however, would find the above joke offensive. Some people would find toilet paper offensive because of what it's used for. Current jokes about 9/11 are on an entirely different level - one would have to be certifiably insane to joke about that issue. Jokes of that nature will probably become acceptable in a decade or two. However, I'm only guessing. I would personally like to say more in this post, but I need to move on. Don |
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Yes, I guess some people would find Diana jokes offensive. Personally, I don't as I was never an admirer of hers.
I'm interested though as to why 9/11 jokes are still taboo? I have heard some, but have never passed them on even in private conversations, and certainly wouldn't in a public forum like this - I consider myself quite unshockable in general and so I'm struggling to understand my own feelings on that. Quite possibly not a subject for further conversation other than to say that perhaps we've found at least one boundary? |
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So Don, you'd like th joke about the dead gunslinger (Doc Holliday - who died from TB) in the old west. It rained the day they were taking him up to boot hill. The hill was so steep that the casket slipped out of the hearse and started sliding down the hill, picking up speed as it went. It slammed into the apothecary shop, hit the counter, popped open, the corpse set up & said, "Doc, you got anything to stop this coffin?"
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Yes!!!! I do like "clean" dead jokes. And it's nice to meet someone with an unadulterated sense of humor. I'm working on a theory that one must be alive to enjoy jokes about dead things or things soon-to-be-dead. And one must be dead to find no enjoyment in dead things or things soon-to-be-dead. This is a paradox, indeed: "Alive likes Dead." And: "Dead Likes Alive." There's a dissertation in there, somewhere. Arf-arf and meow!! Don |
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When is HUMOR in "Bad" taste?
When it reaches one's mouth? As beauty is in the eye of the beholder, bad taste is in the memory of the listener... Any joke is always in bad taste to someone. There is no pleasing everybody. Most jokes today have to reach fast and deep. Why? Media bombardment. |
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