10-01-2007, 01:23 PM | #16 |
Enthusiast
Posts: 38
Karma: 19
Join Date: Aug 2007
Device: Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200, Hanlin V3
|
Still I am not that sure whether "most average folks will want to read the latest bestseller or recent paperback (with DRM added on their e-readers)" is true of reality. Maybe it is only for the geeky readers in this forum. But I for one am not one of this group. I won't deal with DRM and will just head straight to the bookstore to get a paper copy.
Last edited by zdevil; 10-01-2007 at 01:27 PM. |
10-01-2007, 01:28 PM | #17 | |
Resident Curmudgeon
Posts: 73,657
Karma: 127838196
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3
|
Quote:
So what I am saying, is the V3 is going to tank. |
|
10-01-2007, 01:48 PM | #18 |
Enthusiast
Posts: 38
Karma: 19
Join Date: Aug 2007
Device: Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200, Hanlin V3
|
Is V3 going to tank or not? Maybe. I don't care, as long as I can read all the non-DRM books I want to. I have no religious attachment to an e-reader.
If I am Jinke I will definitely launch an update to support DRM format if it can bring in huge market profits. Why not? But ... Is there a necessary correlation between how an e-reader sells and how DRM is implemented on the e-reader? I don't think so, unless there is hard evidence other than mere speculations. How big is the market of DRM ebooks now? E-readers still have chances to evolve, but imho DRM is bound to fail and is going to tank, thanks to its massive unpopularity. True, most "non-geek" readers won't even know the existence of DRM. But nightmare begins as soon as these unfortunate users try to copy/backup/transfer these documents to other media and then try to access it. Look, I am not talking about the non-geek mothers and fathers out there. The reality is most people who have bought/will buy an e-reader are largely of the "geeky" type who are not at all computer illiterate. Will many non-geek moms and dads end up using an e-reader rather than reading paper? It's such a remote possibility unless this kind of products has successfully infiltrated the geeky market. Other by now common consumer electronics like PCs, laptops, PDAs, smartphones, MP3/4 players (or PMPs for that matter) all go this way. Last edited by zdevil; 10-01-2007 at 01:51 PM. |
10-01-2007, 02:12 PM | #19 | |
Grand Sorcerer
Posts: 11,470
Karma: 13095790
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Grass Valley, CA
Device: EB 1150, EZ Reader, Literati, iPad 2 & Air 2, iPhone 7
|
Quote:
A good implementation is not time limited (except for libraries and samples). can be migrated to follow-on devices (and supported on more than one device simultaneously) and can survive computer crashes. And in some cases it can even be sold or willed. Perhaps we could move the discussion to the best implementation and then finally to removing it in some cases. Dale |
|
10-01-2007, 02:47 PM | #20 | |
Wizard
Posts: 2,999
Karma: 300001
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Citrus Heights, California
Device: TWO Kindle 2s, one each Bookeen Cybook Gen3, Sony PRS-500, Axim X51V
|
Quote:
Be that as it may, I tend to think we're stuck with the task of tongue-kissing it in the hopes the toad will turn into a prince. Derek |
|
10-01-2007, 03:01 PM | #21 | |
Resident Curmudgeon
Posts: 73,657
Karma: 127838196
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3
|
Quote:
|
|
10-01-2007, 03:27 PM | #22 |
Enthusiast
Posts: 38
Karma: 19
Join Date: Aug 2007
Device: Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200, Hanlin V3
|
Keep dreaming.
|
10-01-2007, 03:34 PM | #23 |
Resident Curmudgeon
Posts: 73,657
Karma: 127838196
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3
|
The problem here is th V3 is trying ot go for the geek market. And with other devices such as Sony, Cybook, iRex, that market is not as big as it might be. Now the V3 is not for regular folk. So that makes the available market rather small. Small enough to tank.
|
10-08-2007, 11:12 AM | #24 |
Enthusiast
Posts: 38
Karma: 19
Join Date: Aug 2007
Device: Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200, Hanlin V3
|
Let's face it. The e-reader itself is just for the geeks. How many people have you seen around you using an e-reader? For me I am the only user I have actually seen in my life.
The problem is you don't have to repeat a thousand times bashing the device you have never touched. No one will stop you being the most pious believer of the Sony Reader, but please don't make the V3 owner feel bad unnecessarily. I am very happy with my V3, and my life is just as happy without the damned DRM ebooks at all. I just find it very annoying to see this kind of biased and unjustified bashing. |
10-08-2007, 12:53 PM | #25 |
Gadget Geek
Posts: 2,324
Karma: 22221
Join Date: Aug 2007
Device: Paperwhite, Kindle 3 (retired), Skindle 1.2 (retired)
|
My understanding is that HanLin is not going for the consumer market at all. They are willing to sell directly to us but they are primarily in business to sell the hardware and SDK to developers who will customize and market the product. Those are the people who would need to concern themselves with implementing the DRM and its attending business relationships.
|
10-08-2007, 03:05 PM | #26 |
Connoisseur
Posts: 64
Karma: 279
Join Date: Jun 2006
|
Dear Sirs,
We have a year to sell Ukraine lBookV8/Hanlin V8. In 2007 we sold 12,500 pieces of old V8 model and began selling a new model V3. We are now intensively updating software lBOOK V3. Trying to meet the requirements of our market. Preparing for publication SDK and Linux OS kernel. Now device lBOOK V3 reads: txt. fb2, pdf, djvu, html, doc, wol, chm, plans: rtf, css V3 best adapted to the use of DRM. The design is SIM - card reader, which are keys protection code. Last edited by LVD; 10-08-2007 at 03:12 PM. |
10-08-2007, 03:55 PM | #27 |
Junior Member
Posts: 2
Karma: 10
Join Date: Oct 2007
Device: Hanlin V3
|
To LVD: How can I buy from you
LVD: How can I buy the V3 from you? (I am in US)
|
10-08-2007, 04:58 PM | #28 |
Connoisseur
Posts: 64
Karma: 279
Join Date: Jun 2006
|
By Unfortunately, I will not be able to provide service support to the US.
I do not have the moral right to sell you a device without servesnyh support. This is not correct. For example, I now have problems with the quality of li-ion batrey Nokia BL5 (www.lbook.com.ua). If I sold you the device, it was not able to quickly replace the battery. This is a violation of your rights. Last edited by LVD; 10-08-2007 at 05:00 PM. |
10-08-2007, 11:10 PM | #29 |
Member
Posts: 19
Karma: 40
Join Date: May 2006
|
I don’t think you’re very clear about the market of eBook device. According to my knowledge, Jinke Hanlin is the largest developer and manufacturer of eBook device in the world, their annual sales volume is larger than the total amount of other companies in this industry. The other band eBook devices are all originating from Jinke company, e.g Panasonic Sigema Book. Cybook is the reference design of PVI, even PVI also purchase terminal software from Jinke. Sony only sell eBook device in USA, and the price of iRex ebook is too high to be accepted by the consumers. I know that Jinke has a developing and design team with over 150 persons, which master the advanced technology. I think Jinke is the leader of ePaper device. If you carefully watch the existing ebook devices, you will find that Sony’s device refer to the design of the number keys of Hanlin M2 produced in 2002, and iRex ‘s device also refer to the design of page turning knob of Hanlin S6 produced in 2002. Hanlin eBook is adding the Mobipoket DRM, and there are several new models are in the process of development. I believe that Hanlin is a good choice.
|
10-14-2007, 11:03 AM | #30 |
Resident Curmudgeon
Posts: 73,657
Karma: 127838196
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts
Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3
|
With Mobipocket DRM as a format to read on the V3, then I do think it will sell. That would help quite a bit. I've read of a lot of cases where someone purchases an ebook reader and the spouse then likes it and wants one. It's not an uncommon situation.
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Classic 1.3.0 update & now lost wireless (3G) | sjf | Barnes & Noble NOOK | 0 | 04-24-2010 12:29 PM |
Easy DJVU Reader - reading DJVU books | Rsfor | Apple Devices | 5 | 02-05-2010 08:30 PM |
conversion to FB2 error with & in title | tselling | Calibre | 2 | 01-07-2010 11:46 PM |
jetBook reads metadata with FB2 for title & author | tselling | Ectaco jetBook | 0 | 01-07-2010 09:54 PM |
Hanlin file support and handling. (CHM & DjVu) | hypronost | HanLin eBook | 6 | 11-16-2009 05:03 PM |