Eastern European Fonts for PRS-505?

costash · 02-26-2008, 02:52 PM

Hi guys.

Just got my 505 from the States (cause I cannot get it from Romania).

I had to buy this "toy" because my little girl - like all young kids today - doesn't care too much about reading, so I thought that I could interest her using this nice Sony gadget.

So now I have the toy, and I have the problem: I have books in RTF format written using 1252 codepage (used for romanian characters).

I' ve tried converting them using libprs500 or bookdesigner, but somehow I must be missing something, maybe I didn't read enough on this forum... I've even tried the unicode "patch" but I still cannot make the 505 to show romanian characters !

Can anyone please tell me what to do?

Thank You !

Jeeves · 03-03-2008, 10:06 AM

Hi, costash,
I've done with mine prs 505 and libris500 convertion for Cyrillic characters. No patching, no special fonts, nothing more than the PRS500 already had. The way I do it is when you convert the book to lrf format with libris500, in the section in the libris500 where you can choose Embedded fonts, you MUST choose the font that 'reads' or displays properly your text. Example: In libris500 in the "look and feel" menu there is section "Embedded fonts" "Serif; Sans-serif; Monospace" - when I go there and want to convert Cyrillic text, I choose Tms cyr as a font in all three sections. And that is all. That is how the things are working for me.
Good luck

lovebeta · 03-03-2008, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeeves

Hi, costash,
I've done with mine prs 505 and libris500 convertion for Cyrillic characters. No patching, no special fonts, nothing more than the PRS500 already had. The way I do it is when you convert the book to lrf format with libris500, in the section in the libris500 where you can choose Embedded fonts, you MUST choose the font that 'reads' or displays properly your text. Example: In libris500 in the "look and feel" menu there is section "Embedded fonts" "Serif; Sans-serif; Monospace" - when I go there and want to convert Cyrillic text, I choose Tms cyr as a font in all three sections. And that is all. That is how the things are working for me.
Good luck

In my experience (on prs500), the pageturn is much slower with embedded fonts. Not that it is a deal-breaker, just want to let other ppl know.

Jeeves · 03-03-2008, 10:00 PM

Yes, it is, but there is price for everything.

costash · 03-04-2008, 08:48 AM

Thank you for your answers guys!

I finally made LRF from DOC and I see all the fonts correctly.
But the way to do this was a little bit complicated:
1. Open my DOC or RTF file using AbiWord Word Processor (a free editor from http://www.abisource.com/) and save the file as HTML, and the most important part is that the language in HTM file is "text/html;charset=UTF-8"... also I kept the formatting (bold/italic/underline) and styles (heading 1,2,3) but I only used one type of font.
2. Do some minor cleaning in the HTML - needed because I'm getting an unknown character (a little square) instead of "-".
3. Convert the HTML to LRF using libprs500 and specifying only one embedded font - the serif one - and I used "Arial Narrow".

So now I'm happy! Thank you for these wonderful programs !

costash · 03-04-2008, 10:33 AM

I forgot !

It's not at all slower using the embedded font! You cannot tell the difference in using a file "home made" file or using a preloaded book, or one downloaded from Sony Store.
At the begining, maybe I've done something wrong, but when I first copied the LRF file to the SD card, when I tried to change the font from S to M and then to L, it seemed that the 505 is blocked, and needs about 2-5 minutes to index the file. After the "indexing" process, everything went normal, no delay.
I could accept that, but I tried again:
After a true shutdown, delete all from card, than I used the eBook Library software to upload the books to the reader, and now everything goes just fine.
Really no difference between original and home-made files!
Maybe it's because I only used embedded font?
I don't care anymore, it runs great!

Soulcatcher · 08-23-2008, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeeves

Hi, costash,
I've done with mine prs 505 and libris500 convertion for Cyrillic characters. No patching, no special fonts, nothing more than the PRS500 already had. The way I do it is when you convert the book to lrf format with libris500, in the section in the libris500 where you can choose Embedded fonts, you MUST choose the font that 'reads' or displays properly your text. Example: In libris500 in the "look and feel" menu there is section "Embedded fonts" "Serif; Sans-serif; Monospace" - when I go there and want to convert Cyrillic text, I choose Tms cyr as a font in all three sections. And that is all. That is how the things are working for me.
Good luck

Sorry for bumping the old thread, but can you (or someone else)

help me with this? I don't want to flash my prs-505 (well, if i have a choice of course) so this method would be ideal for me.

I can't get it to work. First of all, do you have to install this "Tms cyr" font? Because i can't find it in Calibre.

Basically, i have RTF with russian text. Can i somehow convert it into LRF with embedded cyrillic font? What exactly should i do in Calibre to achieve that? No matter what font i use in Calibre, ebook Library cant display it properly (and as far as i understand, if it cant read it properly then neither can prs-505).

Thanks for any help

pepak · 08-27-2008, 12:33 AM

Can't help you with embedding fonts, but I used this non-flashing hack and it works well for me:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20644

costash · 08-27-2008, 02:57 PM

For Soulcatcher.

Sorry, I was on vacation.
I didn't do any hack on my 505. And yes, it's slower on turning pages on my "customised" lrf's ... but they look just perfect... for me.
I convert usually DOC files (ms word) into lrf.
The steps are these:
1. I clean the DOC, so that it contains only simple text and headings (1,2,3), images and table of contents.
2. I save the file as "HTML filtered" using utf-8 encoding.
3. I clean the HTML, instruct it to use my custom CSS-file so that it contains no reference to any type of font, only sizes, or bold, or italic ...
4. I feed the HTML file into calibre and i select to embed only one font - at serif.
5. Done. I always check my LRF with Sony's ebook software ( I also load them on the device only from ebook library soft)

Of course there's a catch !
I made a HTM test file(utf-8 enoding), that had all characters I want to find on my ebook, and loaded this file in "calibre". Than i kept on converting this file using one embedded font - each font on my system at once - than check the result in Sony ebook software.
Finally I found 3 fonts that looked perfect for my needs, and those are the fonts I'm using since.

Do some tests, I hope I explained ok.
Good luck!

Soulcatcher · 08-29-2008, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pepak

Can't help you with embedding fonts, but I used this non-flashing hack and it works well for me:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20644

Yeah, but afair it does something to prs-505. Don't remember what exactly. I mean, i'm not that afraid to do this or flash custom firmware, it's just that i don't have any warranty (i think). I also know that chance to brick it completely is extremely low now since we have an official Sony firmware update.

I mean, if i can do it w/o modifying firmware/internal files, i'll try to do that first

Soulcatcher · 08-29-2008, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by costash

For Soulcatcher.

Sorry, I was on vacation.
I didn't do any hack on my 505. And yes, it's slower on turning pages on my "customised" lrf's ... but they look just perfect... for me.
I convert usually DOC files (ms word) into lrf.
The steps are these:
1. I clean the DOC, so that it contains only simple text and headings (1,2,3), images and table of contents.
2. I save the file as "HTML filtered" using utf-8 encoding.
3. I clean the HTML, instruct it to use my custom CSS-file so that it contains no reference to any type of font, only sizes, or bold, or italic ...
4. I feed the HTML file into calibre and i select to embed only one font - at serif.
5. Done. I always check my LRF with Sony's ebook software ( I also load them on the device only from ebook library soft)

Of course there's a catch !
I made a HTM test file(utf-8 enoding), that had all characters I want to find on my ebook, and loaded this file in "calibre". Than i kept on converting this file using one embedded font - each font on my system at once - than check the result in Sony ebook software.
Finally I found 3 fonts that looked perfect for my needs, and those are the fonts I'm using since.

Do some tests, I hope I explained ok.
Good luck!

Thanks a lot! Will try it asap

pepak · 08-31-2008, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soulcatcher

Yeah, but afair it does something to prs-505.

Not really. If you feel like you screwed it up, simply reboot the e-book and you are back to the original settings. That's the beauty of the hack - it does nothing permanent!

costash · 09-02-2008, 11:46 AM

We should close this thread...
I just applied the PRSCustomiser v0.05a to my 505 Reader, and it works perfect!
Only now I can understand why there were complains about the speed when one uses embedded fonts...
So for anyone looking to use localized fonts the perfect tool is out there. Read the sticky guide and enjoy super fast reading, with your perfect fonts.
A big "THANK YOU" for you guys who work and share with us these nice programs, like calibre, prscustomiser, etc.

oltean · 02-05-2009, 03:18 AM

Costash,
Do me a favor and tell me what are the fonts that you use for conversion.
I observe that only new century schoolbook works for me.

costash · 02-10-2009, 03:09 AM

Sal. oltean.
Sorry for the delay ... i was at ski in SK.
You should not care about fonts. I gave up the old method of embedding fonts for a few months now... since I did the "customizing" from http://www.prscustomizer.com/.
When you customize your PRS-505 (detailed instructions on that site) you select the "Unicode font set". And that's it!
I edit my books in MS Word, I then convert them to HTM unicode utf-8 (filtered) and than i use "calibre" to obtain the final "LRF" (which I upload on the reader using Sony's software).
PM me if you have more questions on this matter.

02-26-2008, 02:52 PM	#1
costash Member Posts: 13 Karma: 169 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Sony PRS505	Eastern European Fonts for PRS-505? Hi guys. Just got my 505 from the States (cause I cannot get it from Romania). I had to buy this "toy" because my little girl - like all young kids today - doesn't care too much about reading, so I thought that I could interest her using this nice Sony gadget. So now I have the toy, and I have the problem: I have books in RTF format written using 1252 codepage (used for romanian characters). I' ve tried converting them using libprs500 or bookdesigner, but somehow I must be missing something, maybe I didn't read enough on this forum... I've even tried the unicode "patch" but I still cannot make the 505 to show romanian characters ! Can anyone please tell me what to do? Thank You !

03-04-2008, 08:48 AM	#5
costash Member Posts: 13 Karma: 169 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Sony PRS505	Thank you ! Thank you for your answers guys! I finally made LRF from DOC and I see all the fonts correctly. But the way to do this was a little bit complicated: 1. Open my DOC or RTF file using AbiWord Word Processor (a free editor from http://www.abisource.com/) and save the file as HTML, and the most important part is that the language in HTM file is "text/html;charset=UTF-8"... also I kept the formatting (bold/italic/underline) and styles (heading 1,2,3) but I only used one type of font. 2. Do some minor cleaning in the HTML - needed because I'm getting an unknown character (a little square) instead of "-". 3. Convert the HTML to LRF using libprs500 and specifying only one embedded font - the serif one - and I used "Arial Narrow". So now I'm happy! Thank you for these wonderful programs ! Last edited by costash; 03-04-2008 at 10:23 AM. Reason: Incomplete post

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03-03-2008, 10:06 AM	#2
Jeeves Member Posts: 19 Karma: 92 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wild West, Canada Device: PRS 505	Hi, costash, I've done with mine prs 505 and libris500 convertion for Cyrillic characters. No patching, no special fonts, nothing more than the PRS500 already had. The way I do it is when you convert the book to lrf format with libris500, in the section in the libris500 where you can choose Embedded fonts, you MUST choose the font that 'reads' or displays properly your text. Example: In libris500 in the "look and feel" menu there is section "Embedded fonts" "Serif; Sans-serif; Monospace" - when I go there and want to convert Cyrillic text, I choose Tms cyr as a font in all three sections. And that is all. That is how the things are working for me. Good luck

03-03-2008, 10:00 PM	#4
Jeeves Member Posts: 19 Karma: 92 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wild West, Canada Device: PRS 505	Yes, it is, but there is price for everything.

03-04-2008, 10:33 AM	#6
costash Member Posts: 13 Karma: 169 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Sony PRS505	I forgot ! It's not at all slower using the embedded font! You cannot tell the difference in using a file "home made" file or using a preloaded book, or one downloaded from Sony Store. At the begining, maybe I've done something wrong, but when I first copied the LRF file to the SD card, when I tried to change the font from S to M and then to L, it seemed that the 505 is blocked, and needs about 2-5 minutes to index the file. After the "indexing" process, everything went normal, no delay. I could accept that, but I tried again: After a true shutdown, delete all from card, than I used the eBook Library software to upload the books to the reader, and now everything goes just fine. Really no difference between original and home-made files! Maybe it's because I only used embedded font? I don't care anymore, it runs great!

08-27-2008, 12:33 AM	#8
pepak Guru Posts: 610 Karma: 4150 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: Sony Reader PRS-T3, Kobo Libra H2O	Can't help you with embedding fonts, but I used this non-flashing hack and it works well for me: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20644

08-27-2008, 02:57 PM	#9
costash Member Posts: 13 Karma: 169 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Sony PRS505	For Soulcatcher. Sorry, I was on vacation. I didn't do any hack on my 505. And yes, it's slower on turning pages on my "customised" lrf's ... but they look just perfect... for me. I convert usually DOC files (ms word) into lrf. The steps are these: 1. I clean the DOC, so that it contains only simple text and headings (1,2,3), images and table of contents. 2. I save the file as "HTML filtered" using utf-8 encoding. 3. I clean the HTML, instruct it to use my custom CSS-file so that it contains no reference to any type of font, only sizes, or bold, or italic ... 4. I feed the HTML file into calibre and i select to embed only one font - at serif. 5. Done. I always check my LRF with Sony's ebook software ( I also load them on the device only from ebook library soft) Of course there's a catch ! I made a HTM test file(utf-8 enoding), that had all characters I want to find on my ebook, and loaded this file in "calibre". Than i kept on converting this file using one embedded font - each font on my system at once - than check the result in Sony ebook software. Finally I found 3 fonts that looked perfect for my needs, and those are the fonts I'm using since. Do some tests, I hope I explained ok. Good luck!

09-02-2008, 11:46 AM	#13
costash Member Posts: 13 Karma: 169 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Sony PRS505	We should close this thread... I just applied the PRSCustomiser v0.05a to my 505 Reader, and it works perfect! Only now I can understand why there were complains about the speed when one uses embedded fonts... So for anyone looking to use localized fonts the perfect tool is out there. Read the sticky guide and enjoy super fast reading, with your perfect fonts. A big "THANK YOU" for you guys who work and share with us these nice programs, like calibre, prscustomiser, etc.

02-05-2009, 03:18 AM	#14
oltean Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: PRS505	Costash, Do me a favor and tell me what are the fonts that you use for conversion. I observe that only new century schoolbook works for me.

02-10-2009, 03:09 AM	#15
costash Member Posts: 13 Karma: 169 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Sony PRS505	Sal. oltean. Sorry for the delay ... i was at ski in SK. You should not care about fonts. I gave up the old method of embedding fonts for a few months now... since I did the "customizing" from http://www.prscustomizer.com/. When you customize your PRS-505 (detailed instructions on that site) you select the "Unicode font set". And that's it! I edit my books in MS Word, I then convert them to HTM unicode utf-8 (filtered) and than i use "calibre" to obtain the final "LRF" (which I upload on the reader using Sony's software). PM me if you have more questions on this matter.

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