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View Poll Results: Would you circumvent geographical restrictions SOLELY to save money? | |||
Yes | 131 | 67.18% | |
No | 53 | 27.18% | |
Other (explain in thread, please) | 11 | 5.64% | |
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09-14-2013, 12:17 PM | #181 | |
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Now for trad: The US publisher gets nothing usually if you buy it in the UK so the US publisher cares. Does the publisher feel it is pirated? Probably not, but each country does try to keep you inside the bounds because they are more interested in their own profit, even if the company shares a parent company. Is it morally wrong? I have no idea. I have more important moral questions to worry about than whether or not shopping around is going to slight my record. |
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09-14-2013, 12:18 PM | #182 | |
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Yes, I think they do come out more slowly, but on the other hand, co-workers can be quite inspiring to murder plots and, erm. Well, they can be quite inspiring. |
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09-14-2013, 12:21 PM | #183 |
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09-14-2013, 01:07 PM | #184 |
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09-14-2013, 01:24 PM | #185 |
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However, the retailer also has Terms of Use that are very clear about providing accurate information about where you live for use with your account, including for billing /purchasing. The consequences can include being prevented from making additional purchases, and perhaps having your account closed. I don't know if that would include being prevented from downloading copies of previously purchased books. There is, one could argue, an issue with violating that agreement.
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09-14-2013, 05:05 PM | #186 | |
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09-14-2013, 05:50 PM | #187 |
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09-14-2013, 07:06 PM | #188 | |
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09-14-2013, 07:16 PM | #189 | |
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If you ask me laws such as the DMCA are trying to criminalize behavior which is perfectly legal in any other realm. |
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09-14-2013, 07:34 PM | #190 |
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Had to vote "Other" on this one. Because I question the whole morality of imposing geographical restrictions -- or as I prefer to call it -- geographical discrimination -- in the first place. It is BS of this sort that leads people into piracy even though they are willing and able to pay but the vendors refuse to sell simply because of where they happen to live. We do not allow this in the real world; you can walk into any store to buy a book or movie, etc. and there will be no questions asked about where you're from. As long as you have the money and the purchase is legal (no sales of adult material to underage customers, for example) nobody cares if you're from Canada, the States or The Klingon Empire. Refusing legitimate customers based on such "logic" would soon put a bricks-and-mortar business out of business. Why do we let these e-companies get away with what no offline retailer can? It boggles the mind.
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09-14-2013, 10:14 PM | #191 | |
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09-14-2013, 11:02 PM | #192 |
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Yep, it's all about protecting corporate profits, not author's rights. Whoever came up with such a scheme has the ethics of a Ferengi. And no, that is not a compliment.
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09-14-2013, 11:50 PM | #193 |
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Actually the DMCA tries to criminalize behavior which is perfectly legal in the same realm. Some is specifically allowed by other laws while other has been ruled legal by the courts. The latter is the most troublesome as new laws are allowed to override previous court judgments. The problem is that some of the judgments have been made on constitutional grounds-and new laws cannot override those judgments, only a constitutional amendment (or a higher court) can do that. So it's a quagmire.
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09-16-2013, 12:20 AM | #194 | |
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By torrenting they will never know about you and nobody makes any money, all you are doing is destroying the incentive for people and enriching yourself. |
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09-16-2013, 01:42 AM | #195 |
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Knowing what I know about Amazon and book pricing (basically it's artificially inflated and the author doesn't see the difference), I see nothing wrong with it. The reason it's so cheap in other countries is probably due to the fact they don't want to put up with our artificial pricing AND the fact their economy runs differently and/or they view books as less/more valuable and such.
It also depends on what people are used to paying for print books. Like a manga in Japan back a few years ago was like $4 a volume, ours was $10 at the time. Which then Japanese people would view a book normally at around a $4~$5 locally amped up to US standards of $14 (1350円) as ridiculous. Thus a local price might be $4~5 (I think like.. 390円?) would be more marketable than the $14 price. |
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