09-04-2012, 07:35 AM | #16 | |
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That is how we got HTML out of SGML. (But the followers of the Holy Church of ePub transcendant will likely disagree with us.) The fact that Adobe has nothing in the way of a shipping epub3 solution (going on two years, no?) suggests that a full implementation of that spec is really, really hard. But vendors need to sell *something* now. Hence the enduring presence of epub2 and the emergence of iBook and KF8 and the various proprietary fixed-layout formats. |
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09-04-2012, 02:45 PM | #17 |
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It would be IMHO as a consumer, completely sufficient would they repeat their sanity roll,
understand that a book isn't an interactive jukebox, kick out all the stuff belonging to the latter implement things which are important for books and after! having done this well and rock solid go and play with new ideas for next generation devices which might then be available. |
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A better one would be to ditch all the fixed layout stuff along with the interactivity into a separate format for textbooks and academic papers. That way, people who actually *need* those features in their documents can get a (pricier) reader that can do them (Probably a PC with a new reading app.) instead of trying to squeeze them out of a $99 gadget. Trying to create a super format requires a super reader at a time when the bulk of the ebook money is still in narrative text. There is no economic incentive for the walled-garden vendors to take on the expense and complexity of the full (or even near-full) spec. No yet. So far, trying to use the consumer side of the industry to ramp up the academic side is not working; it didn't work when Amazon did the DX, and it hasn't worked for the other high-feature readers like Plastic Logic, Ectaco, etc. For now the market seems to prefer its readers small and cheap and its ebooks simple and cheaper still. |
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09-04-2012, 08:11 PM | #21 | |
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They're only doing what's right for Apple and Amazon, when faced with an unworkable standard. I don't really blame them. ePub3 was too ambitious and doesn't look like it ever faced a reality check. |
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09-04-2012, 08:29 PM | #22 |
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I disagree somewhat. Apple and Amazon are doing what they are doing not because of problems with ePub. They are doing what they are doing because they want 100% control. If they went with ePub, they would have to deal with Adobe and that wouldn't work for Steve Jobs or Jeff Bezos. They don't care about the consumer as much as they do keeping control.
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Because as retailers, they *know* what is selling and what isn't. If you look at the parts of epub3 they implement and what they ignore it becomes clear they see no value in supporting those features at this time. If those features ever become useful in making them money, then they'll support them. If epub3 fails (it hasn't, yet) it would hardly be the first "universal" committee standard to be thoroughly ignored by the industry it is meant to support. Last edited by fjtorres; 09-04-2012 at 08:42 PM. |
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Heck, I'd be happy if somebody implemented all of epub 2! Last edited by pholy; 09-04-2012 at 11:22 PM. Reason: Jeez, even I can't remember what it was called! |
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...if READIUM's potluck effort doesn't fizzle out... http://readium.org/ http://readium.org/readium-project-goals Announced to some fanfare in Feb 2012, it has since gone quiet. Presumably the coders are chugging away merrily... Other than that, I haven't seen much publicly that even hints at when Adobe might be supporting epub3 in their Reader apps. (Kinda limits what Sony and the other generic Adobe clients can offer themselves.) Anybody seen anything? |
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ADE is not as bad as you think. Besides,would it not nice to be able to buy an eBook from any store selling eBooks and you can use it on your device without having to convert?
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09-05-2012, 11:35 AM | #29 |
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The few books i bought without DRm, and thus ddd not need ade to download, it was really nice. I long for the day the publishers stop that drm nonsence.
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And in return I have to pay an Adobe tax, for a company that contribute nothing except DRM, which everybody hates? (Besides, I read on a tablet, so I already can read books from any store I want) You may hate Amazon with a white hot passion, but they provide the best user experience. |
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