01-23-2012, 04:55 PM | #16 |
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"It's not Apple that people hate. It's Apple's business practices."
Hear, hear. I think Apple have excellent products, which I would theoretically like to own, but there's just no way in or out of hell that I'll buy anything from them exactly because of their business practices and policies. |
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Oh yes, Apple's the nasty people whose computers happily run Mac OS X AND MS Windows... NATIVELY out of the box... and unix... what's that? Other people's machines won't do that... gosh!! Last edited by elcreative; 01-23-2012 at 07:44 PM. |
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01-23-2012, 10:03 PM | #18 |
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Apple I can live with. I used their products for years, and left them when they started becoming too restrictive.
Apple users though, they really drive me up the wall. They take everything personally. It's almost as though they define themselves by a corporation and its products. It doesn't matter how often you reassure them that you are not picking on Apple, because you would raise the same points against other businesses that behave in the same way. Heck, it doesn't even matter how often you raise the same criticisms at other businesses when they do behave the same way. It's always us vs. them. I know that there are some Apple users who defy the odds. I know that there are some Apple users that aren't emotionally attached to pieces of silicon and copper. But sometimes it becomes hard to believe because the vocal ones are so vocal. |
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01-24-2012, 11:11 AM | #21 |
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http://daringfireball.net/2012/01/im...this_watergate
Gruber and Bott duke it out. I am more aligned with Gruber's thinking. Lee |
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*opened thread*
*looked at authors devices* *leaned back* |
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Still, I stand by what I said about Apple users because a lot of them do view attacks on Apple as being personal and biased. That isn't always the case. I'm not a big fan of Microsoft either, because they have used similar (albeit, in my opinion, not as extreme) business tactics. Ditto for Amazon, and other such companies. That being said, the answer isn't as simple as: don't use it if you don't like it. Sometimes people don't have a choice. This may end up being one of those cases. If your school decides that they are going to be using Apple's platform, you're going to be using Apple's platform. If iBooks Author is how an author targets Apple's platform with full media support and (assuming) Apple is the dominant platform, then you use iBooks Author. Even if Apple makes a payware version of iBooks that doesn't have the nefarious licensing clause, how many authors are going to import their work into another system to create a book for a competing vendor? To be sure, some will. Yet given the technical aptitude of many authors, many won't be able to. |
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Passing thought while perusing this thread.
Someone could do a wonderful thesis on "The psychology of fanatic Apple supporters" and her buddy could do one on "The psychology of fanatic Apple bashers". |
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Adobe Flash is free. And cross platform. How nice. Except that drove folks to HAVE to pay Adobe for the software to create flash applications. Years and years later a few anemic efforts at creating non-Adobe flash authoring tools appeared...but not helped along at all by Adobe. Adobe did it's best to ensure that the only way you can create Flash applications was with Adobe's tools. Apple's EULA is clearly something that argues against using their product. Time will tell if the power and ease of creating richly interactive textbooks via the iBooks Author will turn out to be more compelling than the exclusivity of it's purpose. All the eInk devices are moot...none of them will display richly interactive textbooks. Given that Apple is the only tablet with viable marketshare at this point for textbook sized uses....I think lots of authors will conclude that being exclusively Apple at this point isn't much to loose. Lee |
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[QUOTE=BWinmill;1939021Yet given the technical aptitude of many authors, many won't be able to.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Apple is COMPETING for business by not merely creating a touch screen tablet, but by facilitating the creation of compelling content for that platform. Just like AMAZON is working hard to have exclusive content created for the kindle platform...incentivizing authors to be "kindle exclusive". Lee |
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I really don't understand why you are trying to justify the actions of Apple by using equally wrong-headed actions from other companies because two wrongs rarely make a right. |
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I am pretty sure the lawyers at Apple know this too; their strategy will probably rely on intimidating successful parties that breach the EULA instead of going to court. OTOH the quality of Apples legal team might be somewhat substandard, considering the outcome of the various IP cases they ran against Samsung. |
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