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Old 02-02-2010, 05:33 PM   #31
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It's essentially an "on the go" document handler and connectivity device. A concept like the Que was intriguing and seemed like a step in the right direction, but their use of e-paper and slow processing are too crippling to make the device feasible.

I think this point is especially interesting - the Que seems to have very impressive document handling capabilities, but it is rather slow - and we expect our computing devices to display information at nearly the speed of thought and input. Perhaps for this reason electronic ink is just not right for the ideal academic e-reader. At a minimum, an ideal device will have to provide both readability, speed, and organization.
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I think this point is especially interesting - the Que seems to have very impressive document handling capabilities, but it is rather slow - and we expect our computing devices to display information at nearly the speed of thought and input. Perhaps for this reason electronic ink is just not right for the ideal academic e-reader. At a minimum, an ideal device will have to provide both readability, speed, and organization.
Yep, that's why I have no interest in e-ink for my academic research work.

That and I'd prefer a multi function tablet where I could pull up articles on my university's library website, search Google Scholar, do e-mail etc. all on the same device that I'm reading and marking up research articles etc.

Even moreso with the Que being more expensive than the iPad. That really makes me want to wait for a tablet that fits my needs vs. settling for an e-ink tablet like the Que.
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I've been experimenting with a lot of different devices for academic use. For me, "academic use" mainly consists of:
  • Brainstorming (sketches, diagrams, scribbles)
  • Taking notes at conferences and meetings, and in the lab
  • Reading PDF files of papers (journal articles) and marking them up
  • Reading reference books and documents (PDF)
  • Proofreading documents (PDF, Word and Powerpoint) - i.e. adding handwritten comments and annotations

I've owned the Lenov X61 tablet, Motion Computing LE1700 slate, Kindle DX, iRex DR1000s, Fujitsu P1630, Fujitsu T4215, and Fujitsu T2020. Some were successful to some degree; the X61 became my main PC for a long time, and after it broke, the T2020. Based on this experience, my ideal academic tablet would have:
  • PVA or IPS LCD display, at least 1000 pixels wide in portrait mode. At least 10 inches.
  • Active digitizer (Wacom style) is a necessity. If it has touch sensitivity in addition to that, that would be a nice bonus.
  • 8+ hours battery life, stretched to 10+ in the lowest power setting (screen brightness low, etc). A conference usually lasts all day.
  • Convertible is nice, but detachable keyboard would be OK.
  • Light weight as possible, naturally. 3.8 lb is almost unbearable for all-day use. 2.5lb would be nice.
  • Ideally it would run Windows. If not, there needs to be software that has the features of OneNote (i.e. handwriting input and network synchronization), and also a PDF markup software.
I couldn't agree more.

Just one important aspect: multitasking must also mean that you can open as many books concurrently as you need. An e-reader that can only open one book at a time is totally unfit for serious academic or teaching purposes.
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I couldn't agree more.

Just one important aspect: multitasking must also mean that you can open as many books concurrently as you need. An e-reader that can only open one book at a time is totally unfit for serious academic or teaching purposes.
macminer, when you refer to open at the same time do you mean open on one screen, or open as in quick switching between documents?
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Yep, that's why I have no interest in e-ink for my academic research work.

That and I'd prefer a multi function tablet where I could pull up articles on my university's library website, search Google Scholar, do e-mail etc. all on the same device that I'm reading and marking up research articles etc.

Even moreso with the Que being more expensive than the iPad. That really makes me want to wait for a tablet that fits my needs vs. settling for an e-ink tablet like the Que.
How important is text readability on this hypothetical tablet?
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I think this point is especially interesting - the Que seems to have very impressive document handling capabilities, but it is rather slow - and we expect our computing devices to display information at nearly the speed of thought and input. Perhaps for this reason electronic ink is just not right for the ideal academic e-reader. At a minimum, an ideal device will have to provide both readability, speed, and organization.
Unfortunately the Que seemed to be a good ambitious idea that came out of and by extension depends largely on on relatively limited (but interesting) screen technology. Had they originally developed around something like Pixel Qi or Liquavista, I wonder how far off the "ideal" academic tablet would have been.

Perhaps the Que isn't quite optimal either, but it has set a very useful example of where a documents-oriented interface can start.

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How important is text readability on this hypothetical tablet?
I'm not sure I understand this question. What do you mean by readability? Resolution? Contrast? Reflective/backlit? I think dmaul1114's statement about E-Ink refers to the company's products specifically, or EPD technology in general (E-Ink/PVI, SiPix Microcup, etc.). e-paper like Liquavista will certainly be welcome, as will good reflective and transflective LCD tech, but EPDs like E-Ink's are just too sluggish (would have said glacial, but that's more like FLEPia) for that dynamic use.

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I don't have issues reading on LCD (or LED especially). Plus for academic reading I seldom read more than an hour or two in any give stretch (and fairly seldomly do more than that in a day) as it has to be done between teaching and other research related tasks).

So I'd trade off the e-ink/e-paper reading benefit for getting the flexibility of being able to do lag free markup, quick page turns to skim through a document, internet, video etc. an LCD/LED display personally.

If you're a bookworm, read for hours on end, and have eye strain issues/need for super long batter life then my hypothetical tablet wouldn't be for you.
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readability is very important to me. I can't read on a computer screen for more than half an hour or so. I've noticed a dramatic difference in my eye focusing ability since reading so much on the computer- so no more of that for me. I'm hoping the e-reader will be better that way. E-ink is a must.
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I don't have issues reading on LCD (or LED especially). Plus for academic reading I seldom read more than an hour or two in any give stretch (and fairly seldomly do more than that in a day) as it has to be done between teaching and other research related tasks).

So I'd trade off the e-ink/e-paper reading benefit for getting the flexibility of being able to do lag free markup, quick page turns to skim through a document, internet, video etc. an LCD/LED display personally.

If you're a bookworm, read for hours on end, and have eye strain issues/need for super long batter life then my hypothetical tablet wouldn't be for you.
With possibilities like Pixel Qi, it's hard to imagine having to choose between one and the other. You get the speed, you get pretty power savings, you get reflective mode and backlighting...the only current problem I can see is if someone demands a different aspect ratio than what is presently available.
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For those in the know....would it be possible to have, well, almost no bezel on only one side of a screen? If so, and that edge was the one along the "fold" of a dual edged system, that would be my ideal large-screen, but portable device.

A nice sharp edge that, when opened, is right against the other sharp edge of the 2nd screen....
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With possibilities like Pixel Qi, it's hard to imagine having to choose between one and the other. You get the speed, you get pretty power savings, you get reflective mode and backlighting...the only current problem I can see is if someone demands a different aspect ratio than what is presently available.
Yep, that would be the ideal. Nice reflective screen when needed, full color with back lighting for stunning HD video (like the iPad) when needed.
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macminer, when you refer to open at the same time do you mean open on one screen, or open as in quick switching between documents?
It could be:
* open through quick switching between windows (as in Windows Alt-Tab),
* divide window in half
* "open documents" tabs at the top or bottom of the screen
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