R.I.P. author James P. Hogan July 12, 2010

JSWolf · 07-21-2010, 07:09 PM

James P. Hogan died suddenly on July 12, 2010. He was alone at his home in Ireland at the time.

The exact cause of death has not yet been determined.

Jim is survived by his wife, Sheryl, and his six children.

To read his bio, http://www.jamesphogan.com/bio/

shootingMaNs · 07-22-2010, 01:05 AM

RIP, JPH.

"The Proteus Operation" is one of my favorite books.

Donnageddon · 07-22-2010, 01:23 AM

Hogan will be missed.

I enjoyed his "Giants" series, and really loved his novella "Out of Time".

A great creative imagination.

HarryT · 07-22-2010, 02:37 AM

Damned shame. Mr. Hogan was one of my favourite "hard SF" authors.

nyrath · 07-22-2010, 09:47 AM

Sadly, I have mixed feelings.

Hogan is one of those authors who I liked their books, but violently disagreed with their personal beliefs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P...n_%28writer%29

happy_terd · 07-22-2010, 12:01 PM

RIP

fjtorres · 07-22-2010, 12:16 PM

A creative person who provided much enjoyment has died.
What is there *not* to mourn?
Mixed feelings??
Sorry but politics are not *that* important.

Besides, curmudgeons old and young are vital to any free society.
The day we stop questioning authority and stop demanding clear justifications for policy is the day they can write *our* epitaph as a civilization.

No more Hogan books matters.
The rest? Hot air on all sides.

nyrath · 07-22-2010, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fjtorres

Mixed feelings??
Sorry but politics are not *that* important.

Ummm, I guess you did not read the link.

It had nothing to do with politics. He was a Holocaust denier

HarryT · 07-22-2010, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyrath

Ummm, I guess you did not read the link.

It had nothing to do with politics. He was a Holocaust denier

That's not entirely true. What the article actually says is:

Quote:

he finds the work of Arthur Butz and Mark Weber to be "more scholarly, scientific, and convincing than what the history written by the victors says." While such theories were seen by many to contradict his views on scientific rationality, he repeatedly stated that these theories hold his attention due to the high quality of their presentation - a quality he believes established sources should attempt to emulate, but have instead resorted to attacking their originators. [citation needed] As such, they are consistent with the view that scientific theories should not be accepted simply because they are widely held.

In other words, he's saying that if you want to discredit someone's views, do it by presenting your own viewpoint better than your opponents are doing, not by merely attacking them.

nyrath · 07-22-2010, 04:56 PM

The article also says

Quote:

In March 2010, in an essay defending Holocaust denier Ernst Zündel, Hogan stated that the mainstream history of the Holocaust includes "claims that are wildly fantastic, mutually contradictory, and defy common sense and often physical possibility."

Hogan was also skeptical about climate change, ozone depletion, and does not believe that the HIV virus causes AIDS. He was proponent of the insane "theories" of Immanuel Velikovsky.

In any event, my disagreements with Hogan have nothing to do with politics.

HarryT · 07-23-2010, 01:27 AM

I didn't agree with some of his personal opinions either, but they were just that - his personal opinions, which he was perfectly entitled to hold, regardless of what you or I might think. It doesn't make him a "bad person", and at the end of the day it's his books that are his legacy, not his opinions on climate change or WWII. I'm extremely sorry to hear of his death; he was one of the "greats" of SF.

07-21-2010, 07:09 PM	#1
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Donnageddon Now you lishen here... Posts: 2,494 Karma: 479498 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle-ish Device: Sony PRS-650. Kobo Touch, Kindle Fire	Hogan will be missed. I enjoyed his "Giants" series, and really loved his novella "Out of Time". A great creative imagination.

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Damned shame. Mr. Hogan was one of my favourite "hard SF" authors.

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nyrath Addict Posts: 281 Karma: 52007 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: nook	Sadly, I have mixed feelings. Hogan is one of those authors who I liked their books, but violently disagreed with their personal beliefs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P...n_%28writer%29

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happy_terd Banned Posts: 13,045 Karma: 10105011 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Finally made it to Walmart. Device: PRS 420	RIP

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	I didn't agree with some of his personal opinions either, but they were just that - his personal opinions, which he was perfectly entitled to hold, regardless of what you or I might think. It doesn't make him a "bad person", and at the end of the day it's his books that are his legacy, not his opinions on climate change or WWII. I'm extremely sorry to hear of his death; he was one of the "greats" of SF.

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