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Old 02-23-2011, 12:24 PM   #1
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Erste Deutsche Titel von großen Verlagen im Kindle Store gesichtet

Noch kein offizielles Statement von Amazon, aber das macht Hoffnung auf mehr.

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Old 02-23-2011, 02:26 PM   #2
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:20 PM   #3
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Und jetzt auch bei lesen.net .

Derzeit sind diese ebooks wohl nur mit US-Account zugänglich, liegt vermutlich an den geringen Preisen, die hier nicht zulässig wären.
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Ja, und das ist so schön widersinnig. Solange also niemand mit gefaktem Account einkauft, dürfen nur US-Bürger deutsche eBooks auf ihrem Kindle kaufen, deutsche Bürger aber nicht.

Ja ne, is' klar.
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Ja, und das ist so schön widersinnig. Solange also niemand mit gefaktem Account einkauft, dürfen nur US-Bürger deutsche eBooks auf ihrem Kindle kaufen, deutsche Bürger aber nicht.

Ja ne, is' klar.
Ich hoffe, das war nur die Vorstufe zu einem baldigen offiziellen Start im deutschsprachigen Raum. Es ist aber schon etwas befremdlich, ein zeitgleicher Start hätte sicher nicht diesen komischen Beigeschmack und macht auch die Sorge, dass ein deutscher Kindlestore in Zukunft mit diversen Einschränkungen leben muss.
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:12 AM   #7
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Vergleich der Preise...

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Und jetzt auch bei lesen.net .

Derzeit sind diese ebooks wohl nur mit US-Account zugänglich, liegt vermutlich an den geringen Preisen, die hier nicht zulässig wären.
Mit "hidemyass" kann man die Preise einsehen:


"Der siebte Schwan"
Kindle-US-Preis 15 $ = 11 Euro
Taschenbuch (Deutschland) 14 Euro
Epub bei Thalia 10,99 Euro

Stephan King: "Wahn"
Kindle-US-Preis: 11.86 $ = 08,50 Euro,
Taschenbuch (Deutschland): 10,00 Euro
Epub z.B. bei Thalia 08,99 Euro

Also zumindest bei den beiden Büchern, kann man ja nicht von Kampfpreisen reden...

Was mir da auffällt, diese Verlage haben wenigstens einen Unterschied im Preis von Taschenbuch und Epub und das in Deutschland! ;-)

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Old 03-04-2011, 12:38 PM   #8
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Nö, die Preise sind ja gleich, daran kann es zumindest in diesen Fällen nicht liegen. Dann ist es umso unverständlicher, warum man die Ebooks nicht auch hier anbietet.
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Kommt darauf an, welche Bücher ihr euch anschaut...

Die, nach denen ich gesucht habe, hatten deutliche Preisunterschiede:

Elizabeth Kostova: Die Schwanendiebe Hardcover 24,90€

als epub bei libri 23,99€
und bei Amazon America 16,49 USD, das sind zur Stunde 11,88€

Besonders lustig wird es, wenn man mal nach dem Angebot an deutschen Tageszeitungen schaut: Die Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung kostet aus Frankfurt als epaper 29,90€. Nimmt man dagegen die gleiche Zeitung aus America dann bezahlt man 14,99 USD = 10,80€.

Das sind übrigens keine Einzelfälle sondern die neu hinzugekommenen Bücher und Zeitungen. Wenn man dagegen nach ollen Kamellen schaut, dann bekommt man das von samy genannte Ergebnis.
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:27 PM   #10
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Hab auch nicht gegen Preissenkungen. Generell sollte ein Epub unter dem Preis des Taschenbuchs liegen. Aber zu meiner Verteidigung in hab nur die Beispiele von hier (Vom Threadstarter gepostet) überprüft:

http://www.plantoschka.com/2011/02/e...-verlagen.html

Preise wie die du gezeigt hast.. Epub-Preis=Hardcoverpreis sind wirklich Wucher!!! Die darf man einfach nicht kaufen!! Zu mal man die ja von amazon.com kaufen kann und dann... [zensiert] sind sie auf dem Epub-Reader...

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Entschuldige samy, das war unglücklich formuliert, ich wusste, Du hast das auch nur zitiert.
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Entschuldige samy, das war unglücklich formuliert, ich wusste, Du hast das auch nur zitiert.
Kein Problem. Komisch nur das die Ebooks die man als Europäer und Deutscher auf amazon.com NICHT kaufen kann nicht unbedingt die billigeren sind (die von mir geprüften) aber gerade dafür die billigeren (die die du vorgestellt hast) problemlos von Deutschland aus gekauft werden können... Hat also wohl nichts mit dem Preis zu tun..
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Kein Problem. Komisch nur das die Ebooks die man als Europäer und Deutscher auf amazon.com NICHT kaufen kann nicht unbedingt die billigeren sind (die von mir geprüften) aber gerade dafür die billigeren (die die du vorgestellt hast) problemlos von Deutschland aus gekauft werden können... Hat also wohl nichts mit dem Preis zu tun..

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Kein Problem. Komisch nur das die Ebooks die man als Europäer und Deutscher auf amazon.com NICHT kaufen kann nicht unbedingt die billigeren sind (die von mir geprüften) aber gerade dafür die billigeren (die die du vorgestellt hast) problemlos von Deutschland aus gekauft werden können... Hat also wohl nichts mit dem Preis zu tun..
Gerade das glaube ich nicht. Ich denke eher, genau da liegt der Zusammenhang. Wenn sie diese Bücher jetzt, bevor sie den Deutschlandkindle lancieren schon verkaufen, dann gibt es bestimmt Riesenärger. Diese Bücher werden bestimmt zum Start des deutschen ebook-shops erst auf den Markt kommen.

Könntest Du denn die von mir gezeigten Dinge problemlos kaufen? Das würde mich wundern. Es sieht bestimmt nur so aus, weil ich dämlicherweise den link von meinem geöffneten Account gemacht habe. Ich kann, denn ich habe eine borderlinx Adresse hinterlegt, aber normalerweise dürfte das unmöglich sein.
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Geht auch so.. Aber ich gib doch jetzt nicht zum Spaß und Tollerei 30 Dollar aus.

Zumindest Schwanendiebe, wird mir auch so zum Kauf angeboten...
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