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Old 02-16-2009, 08:27 PM   #16
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ah... hardbacks usually cost around 22-24$. :P
Yeah not usually as ebooks though. So when I say hardback price, I mean ebook hardback price Although sometimes they do cost that much.
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it would make more sense to miss book one in a series but when they have books 1 and 3 in a series in ebook format, or 1, 2, 4 and 5 in a series, it is not only maddening but also frustrating because of the seeming arbitrariness of it
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I don't agree with that. Releasing some is better than nothing.
I don't agree with that... Releasing some is sometimes worse than nothing. Why would I want to buy a series that is missing some books in between?
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I don't agree with that... Releasing some is sometimes worse than nothing. Why would I want to buy a series that is missing some books in between?
You might not, and I agree in a perfect world they'd put out whole series. There are those who will be happy to get the more current books as ebooks though, having already read the earlier ones as pbooks.



It does seem publishers are trying to catch up as they can. Faye Kellerman's series is all out know AFAIK, but when I bought my 505 in Oct. '07 only the first book or two and the most recent few were available. A few other series have had the publishers catch them up too. It takes time and when most publishers seem to have trouble even getting all their current releases out as ebooks it's not surprising they aren't getting back catalog titles out faster. We all want them now of course, but some of them do appear to be trying.


As far as the series like Derek mentioned where they're current but have gaps, well that sounds like it's Penguin being Penguin. They often do things with ebooks that don't make sense.

It's to bad we haven't had any chats with the ebook people from some of the major houses (kind of like movie studios did on Home Theater Forum when DVD started hitting it big). Maybe some of folks questions could be answered and the pub houses would garner some good PR.
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Releasing some is sometimes worse than nothing. Why would I want to buy a series that is missing some books in between?
Yeah, I tend towards that point of view myself.
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It's to bad we haven't had any chats with the ebook people from some of the major houses (kind of like movie studios did on Home Theater Forum when DVD started hitting it big). Maybe some of folks questions could be answered and the pub houses would garner some good PR.
Can I please bring Guido and Nunzio to the meeting? With a complete set of Louisville Sluggers? Hunh? Hunh?

I guarantee I'll get the ebook publishers' attention!

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I don't agree with that... Releasing some is sometimes worse than nothing. Why would I want to buy a series that is missing some books in between?
Very often books in a "series" can be read independently. Eg, someone mentioned that only 5 of Sue Grafton's "Alphabet" series are released as eBooks. That doesn't really matter (to me) because each one is a completely stand-alone book.

Obviously it's different for a "trilogy" where you have one story split across three books.
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Old 02-17-2009, 12:57 PM   #24
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I don't agree with that... Releasing some is sometimes worse than nothing. Why would I want to buy a series that is missing some books in between?
It still boggles my mind why format is so very important for some...

Price I would understand, so not buying a series because some books are way too expensive, yeah, but not reading a series since not all books are e???

What's wrong with reading some books in print, from the library, or getting them used on Amazon usually very cheaply??

If I like a book or series, I get it in any way I can, only price matters...
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It still boggles my mind why format is so very important for some...

Price I would understand, so not buying a series because some books are way too expensive, yeah, but not reading a series since not all books are e???

What's wrong with reading some books in print, from the library, or getting them used on Amazon usually very cheaply??

If I like a book or series, I get it in any way I can, only price matters...
I prefer to buy all ebooks, so it makes me cranky if stuff is missing. Eventually I break down and get it elsewhere.
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I don't agree with that. Releasing some is better than nothing.

And publishing the latest volumes has it's logic... Many people interested in those books have already read the former ones in pBook form, so they won't buy them again in eBook form.
There is NO logic involved. What if I have not yet read any of the series I am interested in? I then have to find copies of the pBooks and for all I know they could be out of print. Then what? If I want to own the entire series, I'm well and truly screwed. This is not logic. This is a mess. I think those in charge who decide to not release all of a series in eBook form should be fired and others hired who can and will do it right. It only hurts the authors who's series are incomplete. I won't purchase an incomplete series. So if the publishers want to hurt the authors, so be it.
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There is NO logic involved. What if I have not yet read any of the series I am interested in? I then have to find copies of the pBooks and for all I know they could be out of print. Then what? If I want to own the entire series, I'm well and truly screwed. This is not logic. This is a mess. I think those in charge who decide to not release all of a series in eBook form should be fired and others hired who can and will do it right. It only hurts the authors who's series are incomplete. I won't purchase an incomplete series. So if the publishers want to hurt the authors, so be it.

OH MY GOLLY!!! I actually agree with Jon............

Great points.
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You might not, and I agree in a perfect world they'd put out whole series. There are those who will be happy to get the more current books as ebooks though, having already read the earlier ones as pbooks.

It does seem publishers are trying to catch up as they can. Faye Kellerman's series is all out know AFAIK, but when I bought my 505 in Oct. '07 only the first book or two and the most recent few were available. A few other series have had the publishers catch them up too. It takes time and when most publishers seem to have trouble even getting all their current releases out as ebooks it's not surprising they aren't getting back catalog titles out faster. We all want them now of course, but some of them do appear to be trying.
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Very often books in a "series" can be read independently. Eg, someone mentioned that only 5 of Sue Grafton's "Alphabet" series are released as eBooks. That doesn't really matter (to me) because each one is a completely stand-alone book.

Obviously it's different for a "trilogy" where you have one story split across three books.
Naturally, I was talking about "trilogy" series. I can understand if they start from the first book onwards, or from the last book backwards. But why would you skip books in between?

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It still boggles my mind why format is so very important for some...

Price I would understand, so not buying a series because some books are way too expensive, yeah, but not reading a series since not all books are e???

What's wrong with reading some books in print, from the library, or getting them used on Amazon usually very cheaply??

If I like a book or series, I get it in any way I can, only price matters...
I would like to complete my series (a series in my lexicon is a "trilogy" kind of series). So, if I have one book in pbook format, I like the rest in pbook format too. If I have one book in ebook format, I like the rest in ebook format too. There are plenty of books I have in both formats. And library isn't an option as I want to read books when I want to read them, not when the library has them available (if they even have them).

And then there are those out-of-print books, as JSWolf mentioned.
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And then there are those out-of-print books, as JSWolf mentioned.
Finding 2nd-hand versions of pbacks is rarely a problem. A great resource is:

http://www.abebooks.com (or .co.uk for the UK version)

which lists the stock of thousands of small independend 2nd-hand bookstores.
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