Styles?

1eduard · 11-02-2022, 07:08 AM

Now I'm writing my book with Libre Office (LINUX).
The comments I got in my previous posts that I must use properly 'Styles'.

What do you mean with this???

BeckyEbook · 11-02-2022, 08:02 AM

Look here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/...8PC_and_Mac.29

Short answer:
Use Text Body for ALL texts except headings.
Use Headings1/2/3 for headings.

Tex2002ans · 11-02-2022, 01:36 PM

See my recent post here. I linked to all the best Styles + LibreOffice info I've written:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...11#post4264811

Styles in LibreOffice/Word are pretty much = HTML "classes".

So, if you use Styles in your documents:

"Heading 1" Style -> <h1> in HTML
"Heading 2" Style -> <h2> in HTML
"poetry" Style -> <p class="poetry"> in HTML
"centered" Style -> <p class="centered"> in HTML

This gives you very clean HTML for your ebook.

1eduard · 11-10-2022, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex2002ans

See my recent post here. I linked to all the best Styles + LibreOffice info I've written:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...11#post4264811

Styles in LibreOffice/Word are pretty much = HTML "classes".

So, if you use Styles in your documents:

"Heading 1" Style -> <h1> in HTML
"Heading 2" Style -> <h2> in HTML
"poetry" Style -> <p class="poetry"> in HTML
"centered" Style -> <p class="centered"> in HTML

This gives you very clean HTML for your ebook.

Sorry, Tex2002ans that I didn't answer your post, but I was busy with other things!

My english (americain) isn't that good! So could you simply write about using Styles in LO, please? Thanks!

Turtle91 · 11-10-2022, 07:35 AM

Here are some youtube videos that might be easier to follow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0vppPe5hUY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apj6uctVZpw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YB4RIR-fa4

1eduard · 11-10-2022, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle91

Here are some youtube videos that might be easier to follow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0vppPe5hUY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apj6uctVZpw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YB4RIR-fa4

Ok, many thanks!

Tex2002ans · 11-10-2022, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1eduard

So could you simply write about using Styles in LO, please? Thanks!

Visit the Reddit posts I linked to... Like this one.

Quoth · 11-12-2022, 10:05 AM

But edit in odt and an extra Save As in docx for Calibre.
All the paragraph and heading styles perfectly 1:1 as CSS after conversion to epub2.
You might need to edit CSS of images.
Make any other ebook format from the epub2

I don't use any of the default LO Writer styles, but define my own headings with Page Break Before and a Headling Level.
I defined other styles for:
1 regular paragraph,
2 first paragraph after any centred element.
3 Preamble titles
4 Preambles
5 captions
6 quotations
7 letters
8 old typewriter notes or console text
9 list headings
10 list elements and they never have auto number/letter or bullets. Explicitly type those in at start of each list element for 100% compatibility.
11 Notes in a rectangle box (even works converted to old mobi).

Undock the Style browser (set to Paragraph) and Outline/Navigation/Heading browsers.

Leave page style undefined in Insert Page break except for version to export as PDF. Only edit a copy for PDF export if needed when version for epub is polished.
Never edit the "Save As" docx, only odt.

Quoth · 11-12-2022, 10:09 AM

And using (paragraph) styles for everything applies to MS Word too and LO Writer on Mac, Windows and Linux.

Quoth · 11-12-2022, 10:15 AM

Sigil is very good if you are doing complex stuff or making a text book. But if it's fiction novel then LO Writer edited in odt, extra Save As in docx and then Calibre to epub2 is simpler.
You can still edit the resulting epub in Sigil or Calibre to fix up images' CSS.

DiapDealer · 11-12-2022, 11:54 AM

Please refrain from giving advice to use calibre in the Sigil forum. If it's asked in the Sigil forum, give Sigil advice or none. If something is better suited to the calibre forums, a Moderator or Editor will move it.

JSWolf · 11-12-2022, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quoth

And using (paragraph) styles for everything applies to MS Word too and LO Writer on Mac, Windows and Linux.

It applies to any word processor.

roger64 · 11-12-2022, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quoth

Sigil is very good if you are doing complex stuff or making a text book. But if it's fiction novel then LO Writer edited in odt, extra Save As in docx and then Calibre to epub2 is simpler.
You can still edit the resulting epub in Sigil or Calibre to fix up images' CSS.

I would say: "then LO Writer edited in odt", then exporting to either ePub2 or ePub3 formats using the Sigil plugin "odtImport" is simpler. YMMV.

DNSB · 11-12-2022, 07:31 PM

How good is the import of an odt file using the Sigil plugin at this time. When I tried it a while back (2017 time frame), I found the default CSS required quite a bit of massaging to be useful for me.

Quoth · 11-12-2022, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

It applies to any word processor.

Yes, I suppose there are some others still!

However some old products that were called word processors didn't have styles separate, only inline formatting.

11-02-2022, 07:08 AM	#1
1eduard Connoisseur Posts: 51 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2022 Device: none	Styles? Now I'm writing my book with Libre Office (LINUX). The comments I got in my previous posts that I must use properly 'Styles'. What do you mean with this???

11-02-2022, 01:36 PM	#3
Tex2002ans Wizard Posts: 2,297 Karma: 12126329 Join Date: Jul 2012 Device: Kobo Forma, Nook	See my recent post here. I linked to all the best Styles + LibreOffice info I've written: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...11#post4264811 Styles in LibreOffice/Word are pretty much = HTML "classes". So, if you use Styles in your documents: "Heading 1" Style -> <h1> in HTML "Heading 2" Style -> <h2> in HTML "poetry" Style -> <p class="poetry"> in HTML "centered" Style -> <p class="centered"> in HTML This gives you very clean HTML for your ebook. Last edited by Tex2002ans; 11-02-2022 at 01:51 PM.

11-12-2022, 10:05 AM	#8
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 11,164 Karma: 85874891 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	But edit in odt and an extra Save As in docx for Calibre. All the paragraph and heading styles perfectly 1:1 as CSS after conversion to epub2. You might need to edit CSS of images. Make any other ebook format from the epub2 I don't use any of the default LO Writer styles, but define my own headings with Page Break Before and a Headling Level. I defined other styles for: 1 regular paragraph, 2 first paragraph after any centred element. 3 Preamble titles 4 Preambles 5 captions 6 quotations 7 letters 8 old typewriter notes or console text 9 list headings 10 list elements and they never have auto number/letter or bullets. Explicitly type those in at start of each list element for 100% compatibility. 11 Notes in a rectangle box (even works converted to old mobi). Undock the Style browser (set to Paragraph) and Outline/Navigation/Heading browsers. Leave page style undefined in Insert Page break except for version to export as PDF. Only edit a copy for PDF export if needed when version for epub is polished. Never edit the "Save As" docx, only odt. Last edited by Quoth; 11-12-2022 at 10:07 AM.

11-12-2022, 07:31 PM	#14
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 35,464 Karma: 145525534 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Forma, Clara HD, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	How good is the import of an odt file using the Sigil plugin at this time. When I tried it a while back (2017 time frame), I found the default CSS required quite a bit of massaging to be useful for me. Last edited by DNSB; 11-12-2022 at 07:34 PM.

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11-02-2022, 08:02 AM	#2
BeckyEbook Guru Posts: 692 Karma: 2180740 Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Poland Device: Misc	Look here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/...8PC_and_Mac.29 Short answer: Use Text Body for ALL texts except headings. Use Headings1/2/3 for headings.

11-10-2022, 07:35 AM	#5
Turtle91 A Hairy Wizard Posts: 3,095 Karma: 18727053 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Charleston, SC today Device: iPhone 11/X/6/iPad 1,2,Air & Air Pro/Surface Pro/Kindle PW & Fire	Here are some youtube videos that might be easier to follow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0vppPe5hUY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apj6uctVZpw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YB4RIR-fa4

11-12-2022, 10:09 AM	#9
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 11,164 Karma: 85874891 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	And using (paragraph) styles for everything applies to MS Word too and LO Writer on Mac, Windows and Linux.

11-12-2022, 10:15 AM	#10
Quoth the rook, bossing Never. Posts: 11,164 Karma: 85874891 Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Ireland Device: All 4 Kinds: epub eink, Kindle, android eink, NxtPaper11	Sigil is very good if you are doing complex stuff or making a text book. But if it's fiction novel then LO Writer edited in odt, extra Save As in docx and then Calibre to epub2 is simpler. You can still edit the resulting epub in Sigil or Calibre to fix up images' CSS.

11-12-2022, 11:54 AM	#11
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,552 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Please refrain from giving advice to use calibre in the Sigil forum. If it's asked in the Sigil forum, give Sigil advice or none. If something is better suited to the calibre forums, a Moderator or Editor will move it.

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