Need more staff action in the Sigil forum

JSWolf · 11-03-2015, 05:06 PM

There are a lot of people who post in the Sigil forum asking questions that have nothing to do with Sigil and belong in the ePub forum.

What we need is more diligence in patrolling the Sigil forums so these posts get moved to the ePub forum.

Cinisajoy · 11-03-2015, 05:28 PM

Jon,
The fastest way to get a thread moved is click the report button.
It is on the right side of Karma.

JSWolf · 11-03-2015, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Jon,
The fastest way to get a thread moved is click the report button.
It is on the right side of Karma.

I do that. But I also see threads where staff partakes and it's nothing to do with Sigil.

eschwartz · 11-03-2015, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I do that. But I also see threads where staff partakes and it's nothing to do with Sigil.

So... what you really want is more staff to disagree with the staff?

Okay...

Staff vs. Staff on at 10 tonight! Yeah!

Cinisajoy · 11-03-2015, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

So... what you really want is more staff to disagree with the staff?

Okay...

Staff vs. Staff on at 10 tonight! Yeah!

Can I referee?

eschwartz · 11-03-2015, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Can I referee?

Certainly. But you'll have to find your own whistle.

theducks · 11-03-2015, 09:37 PM

Jon
I move some.

Sometimes there really is not a better place.
Sometimes, there are 2 places (and I don't know if or how to do a topic link. (it may take a Greenie)

MR forum structure has a lot of Gaps.
Fortunately, it is edged cases that belong there, so we (forum level mods) mostly leave them.

eschwartz · 11-03-2015, 10:27 PM

Yup, links are a Greenie power. Or else very well hidden.

And I don't really think that is a good solution either -- those things seem to be pinned to the top like stickies.

Can't file a thread in two different forums.

HarryT · 11-04-2015, 04:56 AM

"How do I do X in Sigil" questions belong in the Sigil forum.
"How do I do X in ePub" questions belong in the ePub forum.
There's rarely any overlap.

Sweetpea · 11-05-2015, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

"How do I do X in Sigil" questions belong in the Sigil forum.
"How do I do X in ePub" questions belong in the ePub forum.
There's rarely any overlap.

How do I do X in epub, and if I do it using sigil?

HarryT · 11-05-2015, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweetpea

How do I do X in epub, and if I do it using sigil?

If you're asking "how do I do X in an ePub book?", the question belongs in the ePub forum. The tool you're using to do it is irrelevant. If you want to ask something like "where's the menu item to do X in Sigil?", then that question would belong in the Sigil forum, but not a question about actual ePub coding.

DiapDealer · 11-05-2015, 10:00 AM

I'll be perfecrly honest: I don't find enforcing a black & white thread relevance policy to be very fruitful friendly, or necessary. I'm pretty active in the Sigil forum (no surprise there), and I keep a pretty watchful eye on things. I merge, I move, I moderate threads there quite regularly. If I don't move a thread that was reported as being in the "wrong" forum, it's because I do recognize an overlap between epub and sigil that I don't always feel compelled to act on. If a post is clearly in the "wrong" forum, then I move it. It's not like the Sigil subforum is a hotbed of activity where "relevant" threads are fighting for space. If a member is receiving good advice on things that CAN be done with Sigil, I'm not likely to disrupt the conversation by relocating it.

Other moderators are free to use their own conscience with regard to relevance, but I'm not going to move every thread that one (non-OP) member thinks should be moved. If multiple members were complaining about a thread, that would, of course, be different story.

My advice to you, Jon, would be to not worry about it so much. There's plenty of staff oversight going in the Sigil subforum. They're just not always going to act on your reports.

HarryT · 11-05-2015, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I'll be perfecrly honest: I don't find enforcing a black & white thread relevance policy to be very fruitful friendly, or necessary. I'm pretty active in the Sigil forum (no surprise there), and I keep a pretty watchful eye on things. I merge, I move, I moderate threads there quite regularly. If I don't move a thread that was reported as being in the "wrong" forum, it's because I do recognize an overlap between epub and sigil that I don't always feel compelled to act on. If a post is clearly in the "wrong" forum, then I move it. It's not like the Sigil subforum is a hotbed of activity where "relevant" threads are fighting for space. If a member is receiving good advice on things that CAN be done with Sigil, I'm not likely to disrupt the conversation by relocating it.

Other moderators are free to use their own conscience with regard to relevance, but I'm not going to move every thread that one (non-OP) member thinks should be moved. If multiple members were complaining about a thread, that would, of course, be different story.

My advice to you, Jon, would be to not worry about it so much. There's plenty of staff oversight going in the Sigil subforum. They're just not always going to act on your reports.

My only issue would be that general ePub coding questions are of interest to a great many more people than use Sigil, and will, therefore, reach a much wider readership (and be more likely to receive a useful response for the poster) if they're in the ePub forum. But I agree, we shouldn't get paranoid about it.

DaleDe · 11-05-2015, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

My only issue would be that general ePub coding questions are of interest to a great many more people than use Sigil, and will, therefore, reach a much wider readership (and be more likely to receive a useful response for the poster) if they're in the ePub forum. But I agree, we shouldn't get paranoid about it.

I would agree. But I think that, if in the long term, this question or comment provides a good benefit then it is more likely to need moving.

Dale

eschwartz · 11-05-2015, 03:28 PM

tl;dr

Moderators should use their judgment.
Oh, wait, you mean they're doing that already?
Oh well then.

11-03-2015, 05:06 PM	#1
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 74,027 Karma: 129333114 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Need more staff action in the Sigil forum There are a lot of people who post in the Sigil forum asking questions that have nothing to do with Sigil and belong in the ePub forum. What we need is more diligence in patrolling the Sigil forums so these posts get moved to the ePub forum.

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Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	Jon, The fastest way to get a thread moved is click the report button. It is on the right side of Karma.

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theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 29,812 Karma: 54830978 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	Jon I move some. Sometimes there really is not a better place. Sometimes, there are 2 places (and I don't know if or how to do a topic link. (it may take a Greenie) MR forum structure has a lot of Gaps. Fortunately, it is edged cases that belong there, so we (forum level mods) mostly leave them.

11-03-2015, 10:27 PM	#8
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Yup, links are a Greenie power. Or else very well hidden. And I don't really think that is a good solution either -- those things seem to be pinned to the top like stickies. Can't file a thread in two different forums.

11-04-2015, 04:56 AM	#9
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	"How do I do X in Sigil" questions belong in the Sigil forum. "How do I do X in ePub" questions belong in the ePub forum. There's rarely any overlap.

11-05-2015, 10:00 AM	#12
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 27,552 Karma: 193191846 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I'll be perfecrly honest: I don't find enforcing a black & white thread relevance policy to be very fruitful friendly, or necessary. I'm pretty active in the Sigil forum (no surprise there), and I keep a pretty watchful eye on things. I merge, I move, I moderate threads there quite regularly. If I don't move a thread that was reported as being in the "wrong" forum, it's because I do recognize an overlap between epub and sigil that I don't always feel compelled to act on. If a post is clearly in the "wrong" forum, then I move it. It's not like the Sigil subforum is a hotbed of activity where "relevant" threads are fighting for space. If a member is receiving good advice on things that CAN be done with Sigil, I'm not likely to disrupt the conversation by relocating it. Other moderators are free to use their own conscience with regard to relevance, but I'm not going to move every thread that one (non-OP) member thinks should be moved. If multiple members were complaining about a thread, that would, of course, be different story. My advice to you, Jon, would be to not worry about it so much. There's plenty of staff oversight going in the Sigil subforum. They're just not always going to act on your reports.

11-05-2015, 03:28 PM	#15
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,422 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	tl;dr Moderators should use their judgment. Oh, wait, you mean they're doing that already? Oh well then.

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