Amazon Improves Conditions for eBook Publishers

vadimled · 12-16-2010, 10:57 AM

I think this interesting article:
"Amazon have expressed their intention to increase the publishers’ share of revenues from eBooks sold at Kindle Store Amazon.

Starting from December 1, 2010 it will constitute 70%, reads the official statement. Before the company did not disclose the publishers’ share of revenues but, according to some rumors, it was 30%. To enjoy the new conditions of Amazon Kindle Store the publishers must have especially high sales..."

boswd · 12-16-2010, 11:31 AM

its not so much Amazon wanting to make things easier, it's staying pace with Apple as they continue to offer sweetheart deals to the publishers.

there is a reason Amazon no longer has that price advantage they once owned a year ago.

So next time you see that $16.99 ebook send Lord Jobs a nice thank you note.

SCION · 12-16-2010, 11:33 AM

Yep.

Kitabi · 12-16-2010, 02:01 PM

Quote:

So next time you see that $16.99 ebook send Lord Jobs a nice thank you note.

Make that Darth Jobs.

sassanik · 12-16-2010, 02:14 PM

Amazon has been paying out 70% on kindle books for a while now. I don't believe this is actually news. They still pay 30% on public domain books, but everything else is 70%

Amy

=X= · 12-16-2010, 03:42 PM

Wasn't it jobs that said "people don't read any more." Hm I wonder if he's trying to price us out, while he drops price in music.

=X=

Andrew H. · 12-16-2010, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sassanik

Amazon has been paying out 70% on kindle books for a while now. I don't believe this is actually news. They still pay 30% on public domain books, but everything else is 70%

Amy

Yeah, I'm a little confused, too. Maybe this is different from the 70% deal they offer self published authors in that traditional publishers can use it now. Although tradpubs who use the agency model already get to keep 70%.

So I think this may be old news.

doreenjoy · 12-16-2010, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sassanik

Amazon has been paying out 70% on kindle books for a while now. I don't believe this is actually news. They still pay 30% on public domain books, but everything else is 70%

Amy

Yes, this "news" was announced to publishers in June.

BTW the 70% is for US sales only.

elcreative · 12-16-2010, 07:54 PM

Oh wow... it's Apple's fault again, guess I should blame Jobs for the snow this afternoon as well...

bgalbrecht · 12-16-2010, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elcreative

Oh wow... it's Apple's fault again, guess I should blame Jobs for the snow this afternoon as well...

Yep. He really blows.

And I still hate him & Apple for proposing to the publishers that they fix the price for all ebookstores so that he wouldn't have to compete with Amazon on price. The publishers were the ones who implemented it, but he was the instigator. That's why most ebooks are more expensive at Barnes & Noble than their equivalent mass market paperback (B&N discounts the paperback, but isn't allowed to discount ebooks).

elcreative · 12-16-2010, 10:49 PM

Well that may be fine in the states but in the UK and Europe price-fixing is illegal and if that's what's going on then the EU will be taking very expensive action soon... otherwise just looks like the anti-Apple lobby strikes again... well, makes a change from Bill Gates Evil Empire and the Illuminati...

bgalbrecht · 12-16-2010, 10:56 PM

It was my impression that France already has laws enforcing publisher's prices for new paper books, and several publishers (HarperCollins for sure) have already implemented agency pricing in the UK.

elcreative · 12-16-2010, 11:13 PM

Well in the UK the Net Book Agreement was abolished last century and books prices are now only recommended...

bgalbrecht · 12-16-2010, 11:47 PM

Maybe the Net Book Agreement was abolished, but if you're attempting to buy an ebook from HarperCollins, Hatchette UK, Penguin, Canongate, Macmillan and Simon & Schuster, the price was set by the publisher and no discounting by the retailer is allowed. Perhaps if it gets shut down in the UK, there's hope for the US too.

neilmarr · 12-17-2010, 06:08 AM

Amazon still takes a penal 65%/70% commission on ebook sales outside the USA and UK. Neil

12-16-2010, 10:57 AM	#1
vadimled Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: PocketBook 360	Amazon Improves Conditions for eBook Publishers I think this interesting article: "Amazon have expressed their intention to increase the publishers’ share of revenues from eBooks sold at Kindle Store Amazon. Starting from December 1, 2010 it will constitute 70%, reads the official statement. Before the company did not disclose the publishers’ share of revenues but, according to some rumors, it was 30%. To enjoy the new conditions of Amazon Kindle Store the publishers must have especially high sales..." Last edited by Dr. Drib; 01-11-2011 at 04:43 PM.

12-16-2010, 02:14 PM	#5
sassanik Guru Posts: 774 Karma: 1211741 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oregon Device: EB1150, iPhone, Cool-er Purple, Pocketbook 360, Kindle Fire	old news? Amazon has been paying out 70% on kindle books for a while now. I don't believe this is actually news. They still pay 30% on public domain books, but everything else is 70% Amy

12-16-2010, 03:42 PM	#6
=X= Wizard Posts: 3,671 Karma: 12205348 Join Date: Mar 2008 Device: Galaxy S, Nook w/CM7	Wasn't it jobs that said "people don't read any more." Hm I wonder if he's trying to price us out, while he drops price in music. =X= Last edited by =X=; 12-20-2010 at 12:41 PM. Reason: typo

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12-16-2010, 11:31 AM	#2
boswd Banned Posts: 2,391 Karma: 1001781 Join Date: May 2010 Device: The Nook, Nook color and Droid X	its not so much Amazon wanting to make things easier, it's staying pace with Apple as they continue to offer sweetheart deals to the publishers. there is a reason Amazon no longer has that price advantage they once owned a year ago. So next time you see that $16.99 ebook send Lord Jobs a nice thank you note.

12-16-2010, 11:33 AM	#3
SCION Séduisant Posts: 4,706 Karma: 2107018 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Texas, USA Device: Boox Note Air2+; Kobo Libra2; Kindle Scribe, Oasis3; iPad Mini6	Yep.

12-16-2010, 07:54 PM	#9
elcreative Wizard Posts: 2,888 Karma: 5875940 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: PRS505, 600, 350, 650, Nexus 7, Note III, iPad 4 etc	Oh wow... it's Apple's fault again, guess I should blame Jobs for the snow this afternoon as well...

12-16-2010, 10:49 PM	#11
elcreative Wizard Posts: 2,888 Karma: 5875940 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: PRS505, 600, 350, 650, Nexus 7, Note III, iPad 4 etc	Well that may be fine in the states but in the UK and Europe price-fixing is illegal and if that's what's going on then the EU will be taking very expensive action soon... otherwise just looks like the anti-Apple lobby strikes again... well, makes a change from Bill Gates Evil Empire and the Illuminati...

12-16-2010, 10:56 PM	#12
bgalbrecht Wizard Posts: 1,806 Karma: 13399999 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US Device: Nook Simple Touch, Kobo Glo HD, Kobo Clara HD, Kindle 4	It was my impression that France already has laws enforcing publisher's prices for new paper books, and several publishers (HarperCollins for sure) have already implemented agency pricing in the UK.

12-16-2010, 11:13 PM	#13
elcreative Wizard Posts: 2,888 Karma: 5875940 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: PRS505, 600, 350, 650, Nexus 7, Note III, iPad 4 etc	Well in the UK the Net Book Agreement was abolished last century and books prices are now only recommended...

12-16-2010, 11:47 PM	#14
bgalbrecht Wizard Posts: 1,806 Karma: 13399999 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US Device: Nook Simple Touch, Kobo Glo HD, Kobo Clara HD, Kindle 4	Maybe the Net Book Agreement was abolished, but if you're attempting to buy an ebook from HarperCollins, Hatchette UK, Penguin, Canongate, Macmillan and Simon & Schuster, the price was set by the publisher and no discounting by the retailer is allowed. Perhaps if it gets shut down in the UK, there's hope for the US too.

12-17-2010, 06:08 AM	#15
neilmarr neilmarr Posts: 7,216 Karma: 6000059 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Monaco-Menton, France Device: sony	Amazon still takes a penal 65%/70% commission on ebook sales outside the USA and UK. Neil

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