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Old 05-31-2008, 04:43 AM   #1
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Cybook Gen3 firmware on Netronix EB-100

We have sucessfully installed the Cybook Gen3 firmware on the Netronix EB-100: Flickr.

This is probably doable on the STAReBOOK too (and other clones, such as Ganaxa), so we need brave people who are willing to try.

All the information we've found so far is here: http://openinkpot.org/wiki/CybookGen3; if you need any help - just join our IRC channel: #openinkpot on irc.oftc.net network and ask the question.
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:53 AM   #2
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Is this legal? Surely a part of the cost of the CyBook is the price of the licence for the firmware, isn't it? Are you licenced to run that software on a different machine?
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:09 AM   #3
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Is this legal? Surely a part of the cost of the CyBook is the price of the licence for the firmware, isn't it? Are you licenced to run that software on a different machine?
If they sue us, we will counter-sue them for GPL infringement.

And they will not sue us, as it will be made visible that they have to release all the source code (including book viewer and MobiPocket ID generation code) due to license of code they are using.

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Old 05-31-2008, 06:17 AM   #4
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If you are acting in violation of MobiPocket's copyright, then you can quite confidently expect to receive a letter from MobiPocket's lawyers - they are very, very big on cracking down on unauthorised use of their software.

You haven't answered my question. Is what you are doing legal, or not?
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:22 AM   #5
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Harry, with all due respect, what does Bookeen's firmware - containing unreleased GPL code - have to do with Mobipocket?
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:26 AM   #6
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Bookeen have licenced the MobiPocket Reader from Mobi, and that copyrighted code is a part of the Gen's firmware. If someone has copied that code onto a different platform, they are in breach of Mobi's copyright, and Mobi have shown in the past (eg with people who've copied the Java version of the reader from the iLiad) that they'll come down on you like the proverbial "ton of bricks". I don't want to see the original poster getting into trouble. This has nothing to go with GPL.
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Harry,

The Bookeen firmware, which is based on Linux, has a lot to do with GPL, more so if Bookeen does not feel obliged to release the relevant source code. If you visit the original poster's website, you'll disocver that he doesn't provide the Bookeen firmware. In fact, he was asked by Bookeen to remove it, hence I assume Bookeen is very well aware of his actions.

There are tons of examples described on popular sites where Linux users tinker with devices with Linux firmware, and make it portable to other devices.
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:39 AM   #8
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Thank you, Tad, that's what I was trying to find out - whether the original poster was redistributing Bookeen's firmware (which would not be legal) or simply providing information about how to install it on other hardware, for people appropriately licensed to do so. If it's the latter, then obviously there's no problem and my concern has been addressed.

I would suggest, however, that before installing the firmware on a different machine, that it would be prudent for people to contact Bookeen and ascertain whether or not their software licence permits them to do so. I have a suspicion (but I may, of course, be incorrect) that it does not.
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Bookeen have licenced the MobiPocket Reader from Mobi, and that copyrighted code is a part of the Gen's firmware. If someone has copied that code onto a different platform, they are in breach of Mobi's copyright.
By compiling this code to the single binary with GPL-licensed code theey violated the rights of authors of GPL-licensed code. I'm afraid it will be hard times for Bookeen if FSF Europe finally pay attention to it (unfortunately FSF Europe is overwhelmed by GPL violation reports at the moment).
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Yes, I'm well aware of that! I just didn't want YOU to get into trouble with Mobi, because they do come down HARD on anyone who copies their reader software illegally.
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Yes, I'm well aware of that! I just didn't want YOU to get into trouble with Mobi, because they do come down HARD on anyone who copies their reader software illegally.
Ah, I see. Just to be safe, I'll remove all the traces of material probably copyrighted by Mobi. Thanks for reminding.
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I hope it was the last time we touched proprietary software during the course of our project
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Old 05-31-2008, 08:19 AM   #13
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Harry is right to be very sensitive about this matter. And I appreciate his genuine concern for our members.
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Question

Why would one want to use that crappy Cybook frimware anyway? Mobipocket support, OK, but other than that? Is the firmware on the other decives so bad, even worse than the Cybook? It is interesting as an experiment, though, and I can see why one would try it: just because it's possible.

Well, have fun then.
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Mobi support is clearly the reason to want to do it. None of the other Netronix "clone" machines support Mobi, and it is one of the most popular commercial eBook formats.
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