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03-22-2013, 08:13 PM | #17 |
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Thanks draknan but I'm jumping ship on this 2 version thing. Appreciate the input.
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03-22-2013, 08:27 PM | #18 | |
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I'm still debating the notion of going with 0.7.1 (I really am a chicken), but I really appreciate your reassurance that the 0.6.2 and 0.7.1 are compatible. Thanks! |
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03-22-2013, 09:07 PM | #19 |
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Pretty print tidy doesn't usually cause too much trouble. HTML tidy can be a real problem.
The HTML tidy problem can show up mostly in the event you do lots of text mangling with search and replace. It can eliminate whole paragraphs or skipped words and if you are not really good at proofreading, it can slip out and the reader catches it. Automatic repairs can be in this category too. In your position writing the stuff in the first place, you know how it is supposed to go. But it can be like highway hypnosis... you know how is supposed to go so you see what ought to be there, especially after the 17th revision of the scene. If you going to run on automatic you might consider text to speech to read it back to you and save save save. |
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For most purposes (Tidy ON being the exception), Sigil does not differentiate between versions. the EPUB structure is the same (Text, Images,Styles)
There are differences that mostly don't matter to the content. Generate (HTML) TOC now makes its own stylesheet |
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03-23-2013, 09:43 PM | #21 | |
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Pretty print tidy doesn't usually cause too much trouble. Well, I'd really like to have no trouble. That's probably not possible, I know. When you said: Automatic repairs can be in this category too. Were those Pretty Tidy or HTML Tidy automatic repairs you were referring to? Knock on wood, I've never had to do a major automatic repair with the Pretty Tidy. Just little stuff. I wouldn't go with HTML Tidy. I guess it's pretty much a trade-off. Go without Pretty Tidy and little errors will work their way in that will need to be cleaned up later in EPUB check, or go with Pretty Tidy and risk a few quirky errors when you use its 'fix automatically' feature. Does that sound about right? Last edited by Gregg Bell; 03-23-2013 at 09:48 PM. |
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good to know
Thanks ducks
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03-24-2013, 06:59 AM | #23 |
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I don't think pretty print has ever caused me trouble, on reflection. The automatic repairs is when you try to save and it tells you it is malformed and offers to fix it for you. I don't think I would ever take it up on the offer unless I had just saved it and then saved the automatically fixed version with a different file name.
You can make a note of what line you are on just before you switch views or save, since it will tell you that the paragraph is not closed on line 4000 at the end of the html, when the error is nearly always just where you were working. It will also give you the same sort of message with unclosed anchors in the middle of the paragraph so it can be baffling. Much depends on what kind of proofreader you are or can drag into it. I am afraid that going over it line after having beaten it into submission is beyond me. I certainly put the document in my reader and read it, making notes of errors on a piece of paper tucked into the back cover (I gave a cover with a little LED light built in.) |
03-24-2013, 01:12 PM | #24 | |
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still a little uncertain about things
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And a second question: Is pretty print's automatically fixing an error that problematic really? I mean, it tells you what the error is, where it is. And if you can't figure it out, it seems pretty print's fixing it would be a low risk thing to do. Do you have experience with getting really bad results using the automatic fixing? Thanks. |
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03-25-2013, 10:57 AM | #25 | |
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Some of us fought hard for this feature! It lets you save a session "as is" and come back to solving the problem later. Occasionally invaluable, though the arguments why we SHOULDN'T need to do this are easy to list :-) |
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If you use version 7.1 then you can have the preview window open at the same time you are working in code view. If there is an error you will automatically get a little red (pink, salmon??) warning in the preview window that tells you there is a problem AND which row it is (most likely) found on. That instant feedback makes it really easy to correct mistakes as you go, and helps you learn not to make the mistakes in the first place...
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So, I'm going to get the new Sigil (7.1). So, how do I approach this (as a fiction writer with very little bad code)? I leave the Pretty Print on because it'll tip me off when I have the occasional bad code? (I'm just looking for a system.) Thanks. |
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03-25-2013, 03:39 PM | #28 | |
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In Edit/Preferences turn off all automatic checking by Pretty Print or HTML Tidy.
I suggest you ignore HTML Tidy completely. If you want to tidy up a file with Pretty Print, r-click in Code View and select Reformat HTML:Clean Source. Unless you take special steps to install in different directories, 0.7.1 will over-write 0.6.2. I suggest you let it. The only notable bug in 0.7.1 is a problem on some systems with docking floating windows like Preview. It's a tiny inconvenience. |
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Just checked it out.
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