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Old 07-30-2008, 07:53 AM   #46
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Looks like skydiving is a great remedy against the fear.
possibly, but i'm not sure i could get over my fear of falling long enough to cure my fear of flying.
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Looks like skydiving is a great remedy against the fear.
It's a great remedy for everything that ails you if it doesn't go according to plan.

...and also an opportunity to quote Pratchett:

"I'm not going to ride on a magic carpet!" he hissed.
"I'm afraid of grounds."
"You mean heights," said Conina. "And stop being silly."
"I know what I mean! It's the grounds that kill you!"

-- (Terry Pratchett, Sourcery)


Cheers,
Marc (who's not afraid of flying, but who is taunted by motion sickness instead)
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:09 AM   #48
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"I'm not going to ride on a magic carpet!" he hissed.
"I'm afraid of grounds."
"You mean heights," said Conina. "And stop being silly."
"I know what I mean! It's the grounds that kill you!"

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Old 07-30-2008, 08:43 AM   #49
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It's not the actual flying that I dislike the most; it's the airport experience.

I don't know how pre-flight "security" is handled eslewhere, but in the US, the TSA screeners make flying far more unpleasant than it needs to be. I propose that TSA agents and the current farce of "security theater" be replaced with a crack team of border collies. There are several advantages to this scheme:

A.) Dogs are excellent judges of character.
B.) Dogs can be trained to sniff out contraband in luggage.
C.) The border collie's natural herding instinct will keep people in line.
D.) Dogs will work for kibble, saving American taxpayers millions of dollars.

Now I need to figure out a way to replace grumpy airline gate agents with smiling, friendly pandas.
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:47 AM   #50
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It's not the actual flying that I dislike the most; it's the airport experience.

I don't know how pre-flight "security" is handled eslewhere, but in the US, the TSA screeners make flying far more unpleasant than it needs to be. I propose that TSA agents and the current farce of "security theater" be replaced with a crack team of border collies. There are several advantages to this scheme:

A.) Dogs are excellent judges of character.
B.) Dogs can be trained to sniff out contraband in luggage.
C.) The border collie's natural herding instinct will keep people in line.
D.) Dogs will work for kibble, saving American taxpayers millions of dollars.

Now I need to figure out a way to replace grumpy airline gate agents with smiling, friendly pandas.
if we implemented that plan, i think i would find flying a much more agreeable experience as well !!! (well, up to the actual plane part, anyway).
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:09 AM   #51
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I would love flying, if it weren't for the airlines. I pray for turbulence on long flights to 1) rock me to sleep 2) shut my neighbor up for awhile.

At one point in time I worked for a company that had a few amateur pilots. I was able to take a few business trips where we flew one of their planes, small Cessnas. Incredible. Loved every minute of it.

I've also flown on Learjets, again - amazing.

Hmm - time for the airplane avatar again.
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:14 AM   #52
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Believe me, it was one of the weiderst moments in my life when a skydiving instructor opened the door on the airplane and looked out if we are on a proper spot for jumping. We were cruising for quite a long time with open door right in front of me (cca 1m from where I was seated on a long wooden bench (without any kind of seat-belt)) and the plane was banking gently.
Since then I have no fear to fly on anything ;-)

I believe the same AN2 that was already very old 20 years ago serves the skydiving club today.
Well, you did have a parachute on.
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:15 AM   #53
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It's not the actual flying that I dislike the most; it's the airport experience.

I don't know how pre-flight "security" is handled eslewhere, but in the US, the TSA screeners make flying far more unpleasant than it needs to be. I propose that TSA agents and the current farce of "security theater" be replaced with a crack team of border collies. There are several advantages to this scheme:

A.) Dogs are excellent judges of character.
B.) Dogs can be trained to sniff out contraband in luggage.
C.) The border collie's natural herding instinct will keep people in line.
D.) Dogs will work for kibble, saving American taxpayers millions of dollars.

Now I need to figure out a way to replace grumpy airline gate agents with smiling, friendly pandas.
We are the Pandorg. Resistance is futile. You will be acutelated.



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Old 07-30-2008, 09:26 AM   #54
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Some years ago I knew a fellow who was in the US military (Rangers) who was afraid of landing. He'd been on hundreds of "jumps" from planes but had never "landed" on one.
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:27 AM   #55
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Some years ago I knew a fellow who was in the US military (Rangers) who was afraid of landing. He'd been on hundreds of "jumps" from planes but had never "landed" on one.
you know, landing (and taking off) is the part i appreciate least when flying as well, but it would never occur to me to avoid it by exiting the plane before it reaches the ground. something of a radical solution, it seems to me.
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:49 AM   #56
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you know, landing (and taking off) is the part i appreciate least when flying as well, but it would never occur to me to avoid it by exiting the plane before it reaches the ground. something of a radical solution, it seems to me.
Well, you do have your jet boots now...
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good point.
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you know, landing (and taking off) is the part i appreciate least when flying ...
What makes people anxious about the landing?
That's my favourite part.
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What makes people anxious about the landing?
That's my favourite part.
my favorite part is just *after* landing, when you get to leave the plane !
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That's my least favorite part, because you don't really get to leave the plane after landing. You have to taxi. Wait. Taxi. Wait. Gate. Wait. Stand-up, help the lady get her bag, wait... and your reward? You're in another airport.
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