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zelda_pinwheel · 09-07-2008, 05:37 PM

i will have to take a closer look at calibre. so far i have not because my original impression was that it was specifically for making sony books, and i don't have a sony. i realised quickly that it had other features as well but i'm now discovering it has far wider applications than i ever suspected. also i've heard talk of integrating .imp support along with the other filetypes it already supports ; it could end up being just what i need.

NetSlut · 09-07-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

In the search bar enter:

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format!ebk

That's a pretty good reason not to use Calibre right there

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I doubt there's any collection querying feature that you can think of that calibre can't do.

Oh, I'm pretty sure I can.

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And to address the concerns about folder organization.

Uhh, what concerns would those be? You seem to be taking this as a "look what calibre doesn't do" thread, although I think we've tried hard to make it not like that. This thread is not about concerns with Calibre, indeed, any further discussion of Calibre should be moved to an appropriate thread.

Again, this thread is about an indexing tool that will allow me to look at and examine my collection of books, virtual or otherwise, and to organise and interrogate that collection in a multitude of ways. Let's please try to stay on-track with that concept.

kovidgoyal · 09-07-2008, 07:59 PM

This was an attempt to get you to do the sensible thing and not re-invent the wheel. Since you seem to want to re-invent the wheel, best of luck.

NetSlut · 09-07-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

This was an attempt to get you to do the sensible thing and not re-invent the wheel. Since you seem to want to re-invent the wheel, best of luck.

Thank you.

nekokami · 09-08-2008, 10:53 AM

But if the database backend of Calibre does most of what you want, writing a new front end might still be a viable option to get the tool you are looking for, don't you think?

NetSlut · 09-08-2008, 11:01 AM

Nekokami, I would have thought that was exactly the case, until Kovid said that he wasn't an SQL guru (therefore the database backend isn't going to be very well optimised), and various issues with Calibre have been mentioned; it seems to me that the database backend isn't going to do what I want.

Besides which, I *am* an SQL guru, as well as a guru of many other disciplines, so I'm pretty certain there won't be much standing in my way.

zelda_pinwheel · 09-08-2008, 11:15 AM

not to mention the fact that our new SQL guru needs a new project to keep him busy.

god knows we wouldn't want him to have too much free time on his hands ; who knows what kind of trouble he could get into.

NetSlut · 09-08-2008, 11:17 AM

Well, exactly. If it wasn't for this, I'd have to resume my hobby of deciding the basis upon which I should choose victims...

daffy4u · 09-08-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NetSlut

Well, exactly. If it wasn't for this, I'd have to resume my hobby of deciding the basis upon which I should choose victims...

Can I be your friend (because I fear you)?

igorsk · 09-08-2008, 11:35 AM

Some competition can be nice.

kovidgoyal · 09-08-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NetSlut

Nekokami, I would have thought that was exactly the case, until Kovid said that he wasn't an SQL guru (therefore the database backend isn't going to be very well optimised), and various issues with Calibre have been mentioned; it seems to me that the database backend isn't going to do what I want.

Besides which, I *am* an SQL guru, as well as a guru of many other disciplines, so I'm pretty certain there won't be much standing in my way.

At this rate you're heading straight into the category of people that make big announcements of what they're going to do and are never heard from again. Produce some working software, and then talk.

pilotbob · 09-08-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NetSlut

Nekokami, I would have thought that was exactly the case, until Kovid said that he wasn't an SQL guru (therefore the database backend isn't going to be very well optimised), and various issues with Calibre have been mentioned; it seems to me that the database backend isn't going to do what I want.

Besides which, I *am* an SQL guru, as well as a guru of many other disciplines, so I'm pretty certain there won't be much standing in my way.

So, what dev tools, language and sql backend do you plan to use? Will this be a multi-platform tool that runs on Windows/Mac/Linux as calibre does?

BOb

NetSlut · 09-08-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by daffy4u

Can I be your friend (because I fear you)?

Sure! That's one of the criteria I have for my most frequent victims! :-D

NetSlut · 09-08-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

At this rate you're heading straight into the category of people that make big announcements of what they're going to do and are never heard from again. Produce some working software, and then talk.

<sigh> ...and the only reason things are proceeding at this rate is because you seem to be insisting that yours is the only worthwhile program out there, and can do no wrong.

I have a really simple premise here: I just want a tool to index things for me. I don't want it to convert stuff. I don't want it to corrupt my device. I don't want it to look like a blind three-year-old wrote the GUI, and I don't want it to perform like a mangy dog when it gets just 10k entries.

Honestly, if you can't do better than that, you should quit and go and become a bricklayer.

NetSlut · 09-08-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

So, what dev tools, language and sql backend do you plan to use? Will this be a multi-platform tool that runs on Windows/Mac/Linux as calibre does?

BOb

At the moment, I have no plans. As I said before, I'll take stock of what people want to see, and then I'll make my plans.

I thoroughly disapprove of people choosing to work with tools they are familiar with just for that reason alone; tools should be chosen because they are appropriate to the task at hand.

Obviously, if multi-platform is an issue, then Java is a big candidate, but I really dislike Java's UI abilities.

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09-07-2008, 05:37 PM	#31
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	i will have to take a closer look at calibre. so far i have not because my original impression was that it was specifically for making sony books, and i don't have a sony. i realised quickly that it had other features as well but i'm now discovering it has far wider applications than i ever suspected. also i've heard talk of integrating .imp support along with the other filetypes it already supports ; it could end up being just what i need.

09-07-2008, 07:59 PM	#33
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,839 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	This was an attempt to get you to do the sensible thing and not re-invent the wheel. Since you seem to want to re-invent the wheel, best of luck.

09-08-2008, 10:53 AM	#35
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	But if the database backend of Calibre does most of what you want, writing a new front end might still be a viable option to get the tool you are looking for, don't you think?

09-08-2008, 11:01 AM	#36
NetSlut Connoisseur Posts: 99 Karma: 657 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Slough, UK Device: Sony Reader	Nekokami, I would have thought that was exactly the case, until Kovid said that he wasn't an SQL guru (therefore the database backend isn't going to be very well optimised), and various issues with Calibre have been mentioned; it seems to me that the database backend isn't going to do what I want. Besides which, I am an SQL guru, as well as a guru of many other disciplines, so I'm pretty certain there won't be much standing in my way.

09-08-2008, 11:15 AM	#37
zelda_pinwheel zeldinha zippy zeldissima Posts: 27,827 Karma: 921169 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Paris, France Device: eb1150 & is that a nook in her pocket, or she just happy to see you?	not to mention the fact that our new SQL guru needs a new project to keep him busy. god knows we wouldn't want him to have too much free time on his hands ; who knows what kind of trouble he could get into.

09-08-2008, 11:17 AM	#38
NetSlut Connoisseur Posts: 99 Karma: 657 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Slough, UK Device: Sony Reader	Well, exactly. If it wasn't for this, I'd have to resume my hobby of deciding the basis upon which I should choose victims...

09-08-2008, 11:35 AM	#40
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	Some competition can be nice.

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