12-16-2013, 01:43 PM | #1 |
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why would anyone want Android OS on a tablet?
Android devices are jailed. That is, the intermediate vendors force their compulsory apps on the devices and deny removal, and then they try to block root access. With all the readers that run a proper (generic) linux kernel, what's the point of running Android?
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12-16-2013, 01:53 PM | #2 |
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Um... same apps that you've bought for your phone?
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12-16-2013, 05:18 PM | #4 |
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I prefer Android over other devices because I see it as more open with more options.
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12-16-2013, 06:05 PM | #5 |
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You're perfectly free to root your device.
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12-16-2013, 08:32 PM | #6 |
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I have both an Apple iPad and a Nexus 7. Both are locked ecosystems.
I am not interested in mucking about with jailbreaking either of them. I just want to use them, a belief you will find would be correct for the vast majority of owners. |
12-17-2013, 01:26 AM | #7 |
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Android is far more open than iOS in any circumstances, and all you really need to do is root it, assuming you have one of the Android tablets that even suffers from this problem to begin with!! Not all do, and when they are locked, it is not a fundamental quality of the OS like, say, Apple.
And what mystical ereaders are these that don't run Android also, but have a linux kernel, aren't e-ink (ereaders tend to be) and can install apps in a perfectly open manner that you can live with since Android tablets are apparently too evil for you? Maybe there is no point in running certain Android builds released by various device manufacturers. But that is not Android itself, so it's rather ridiculous to complain that Android itself is pointless. Any manufacturer which wants to jail their device will do so; it has nothing to do with Android vs. other OS's |
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12-17-2013, 06:02 AM | #10 |
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Go tweak and root away. I'm perfectly happy with my androids as is.
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Suppose a device runs Debian, for example. When the manufacturer decides in 5-10 years to drop support because they want you to buy their latest model, the FOSS and Debian community will continue to supporting it well beyond its life expectancy. And every year there would be updates.
Androids rot. If you bought a device that ran 2.2, you may get an update to 2.3 the next year, but after that the maker loses motivation and drops the ball because they're already working on their next model. This is chronic with android devices. You cannot simply go to google and ask for version 4.2 for your device. Even if they gave you some of the open pieces of 4.2, it's not a compilable fully-functional OS. (btw, google qualifies their use of the term "open source" to simply mean that some of the code is readable, not that it can be compiled and used). If you manage to port a newer kernel to your device, good luck extracting the proprietary hardware drivers from your old kernel and using them in the new. Android devices are as disposable as Apple devices. Quote:
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* geeksphone * fairphone (not a real device yet) Unless e-reader makers have taken a radically different approach, it's a cop-out to say "google isn't evil... the vendors are". And so what? In the end, the product in the buyers hands is not under their complete control, and future support is at the mercy of the maker. |
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12-17-2013, 07:27 AM | #13 |
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