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Old 02-10-2013, 09:50 AM   #16
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Okay USE CASE:


I open my browser on the kindle (for arguments sake) and type in your IP
72.21.195.161

The browser goes off and RESOLVES this (In the address bar where we can see it) to the aws.amazon.blah.blah.blah

thanks.
Nice point -

I guess I should be using either "reject" or "reset" rather than 'drop' in the BBB filter.
That way the user doing the above will get an appropriate message rather than having to sit around and wait for the access attempt to time-out.

I can feel an 13041 version coming on already.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:54 AM   #17
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Just so I am 100% clear on this..

It's YOUR ISP that is in some way messing up the resolution of the name. OR SOMETHING.
correct?

That is to say IT DOES WORK when you connect via 3g? correct?

Just trying to figure out how you know it's NOT working. Like, exactly what are you trying to do?

Okay USE CASE:


I open my browser on the kindle (for arguments sake) and type in your IP
72.21.195.161

The browser goes off and RESOLVES this (In the address bar where we can see it) to the aws.amazon.blah.blah.blah

What happens when you do this?

thanks.
because i want to connect kindle to wifi
but i can't pass the amazon's some kindle of process

what i want to visit is __Kindle Reachability Probe Page __
http://spectrum.s3.amazonaws.com/kin.../wifistub.html
if i can visit this website ,i can connect kindle to wifi
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oh right...

I remember now.

Let me dig around.

EDIT: put a blank file called WIFI_NO_NET_PROBE on your /mnt/us

and reboot.
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Old 02-10-2013, 09:58 AM   #19
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Nice point -

I guess I should be using either "reject" or "reset" rather than 'drop' in the BBB filter.
That way the user doing the above will get an appropriate message rather than having to sit around and wait for the access attempt to time-out.

I can feel an 13041 version coming on already.
I'm new to this forum and do not quite surely know what;s your mean
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I'm new to this forum and do not quite surely know what;s your mean
You see my name in the quote credit line?
See the little blue box at the right hand end of the credti line?
Click it.
That is the "backlink" in the linked posts.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:15 AM   #22
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oh right...

I remember now.

Let me dig around.

EDIT: put a blank file called WIFI_NO_NET_PROBE on your /mnt/us

and reboot.
but it dosen't work
when i connect to wifi that page can't open ( still need sign-in required)

EDIT: i using kindle 4 black .

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but it dosen't work
when i connect to wifi that page can't open ( still need sign-in required)
Not our problem - contact the Amazon S3 customer service.
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Not our problem - contact the Amazon S3 customer service.
i know that ,and it maybe isp's problem too.
but when i find that i can using ip directly
so i'm thinking if there is something i can do simply
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need sign-in required
so you CAN actually get to something?

Mate. I am confused. WHY do you want to go there?

WIFI_NO_NET_PROBE REMOVES the need to go to the connectivity page.

and a LOGIN PAGE is NOTHING to do with ANYTHING you have listed so far.

Some screen shots would go a long way to explaining WHAT and WHY.

Honestly. I don't understand what you think this is going to do???

The connectivity page returns a tiny bit of (json?) something to confirm you are online NOTHING MORE. if it is not found your wifi connection DROPS, nothing to do with login pages or anything.

WIFI_NO_NET_PROBE removes this check.

Seriously I think you are trying to fix a problem with the wrong tool.
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wait?



so you CAN actually get to something?

Mate. I am confused. WHY do you want to go there?

WIFI_NO_NET_PROBE REMOVES the need to go to the connectivity page.

and a LOGIN PAGE is NOTHING to do with ANYTHING you have listed so far.

Some screen shots would go a long way to explaining WHAT and WHY.


Honestly. I don't understand what you think this is going to do???

The connectivity page returns a tiny bit of (json?) something to confirm you are online NOTHING MORE. if it is not found your wifi connection DROPS, nothing to do with login pages or anything.

WIFI_NO_NET_PROBE removes this check.

Seriously I think you are trying to fix a problem with the wrong tool.
I have a wifi hotspot,any other device can conect to it normally
but kindle can't
After connect and input password it always said __sign-in required__
I'm using kindle 4 Black

Someone said that it is because of my ISP
Other ISP can visit that __Kindle Reachability Probe page.__
and in other isp's hotspot i can connect to kindle

approache 1: let ISP to provide connection to __Kindle Reachability Probe page.__



But i find that i can directly visit that page using ip



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But i find that i can directly visit that page using ip
so i want to do on my own


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if there is no chance i can do that in my own i give up
You **are** doing it on your own! Use the IP address.

You can not modify the **Kindle's** /etc/hosts file, even as root, because that file system is mounted read-only.

Did you notice this motd text when you accessed the Kindle?
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core2quad ~ $ ssh kpw
#################################################
#  N O T I C E  *  N O T I C E  *  N O T I C E  # 
#################################################
Rootfs is mounted read-only. Invoke mntroot rw to
switch back to a writable rootfs.
#################################################
[root@kindle root]#
But the modification of Amazon's files in their system image ***IS NOT RECOMMENDED***.
Your on your own if you do.
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You **are** doing it on your own! Use the IP address.

You can not modify the **Kindle's** /etc/hosts file, even as root, because that file system is mounted read-only.

Did you notice this motd text when you accessed the Kindle?
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core2quad ~ $ ssh kpw
#################################################
#  N O T I C E  *  N O T I C E  *  N O T I C E  # 
#################################################
Rootfs is mounted read-only. Invoke mntroot rw to
switch back to a writable rootfs.
#################################################
[root@kindle root]#
But the modification of Amazon's files in their system image ***IS NOT RECOMMENDED***.
Your on your own if you do.

yes i have mntroot rw
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Dude.

Honestly. Just check your wifi hotspot settings. Sounds to me more like. the Auth Type is wrong or something?

Or anything other than what you have said.

Look at the router settings. Everything you described so far would say that WIFI_NO_NET_PROBE on the /mnt/us would stop the DROPPING of connections. (This appears to work okay in my honest opinion.)


Hmmm...... OH WAIT... Err...

BT homehubs MIGHT have a similar deal. where it you connect to the PUBLIC side of your wifi via a device you have to enter your username and password for THE BT NETWORK as opposed to your local one.. My router has two such profiles.

Honestly. I don't think your answer lies in the connectivity page. Of course I could be wrong. but this sounds more like "something else". "What" I am not 100% sure of.
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