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03-01-2011, 08:30 PM | #107 |
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I for one welcome our new ebook licensing overlords.
They want to price ebooks like pbooks. They want to "decay" ebooks like books. They want to apply the old model to the new. Fine. So do I. I want to be able to sell my ebook. Lend it to another person for as long as s/he needs. Donate it to a library. After the book has changed ownership for, say 5 times, they're welcome to have it self-destruct. See, I'm a reasonable guy. |
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03-01-2011, 08:34 PM | #108 |
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most of my classmates don't even know what an ebook is.
i wish they'd get rid of the geo restrictions though. |
03-02-2011, 10:41 AM | #109 |
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I've just done a short piece on this for RegHardware; OverDrive confirmed to me that this new system applies worldwide, but the statement I got from HarperCollins in the UK doesn't exactly confirm that. I've published it in full on my blog
http://gonedigital.net/2011/03/02/ha...ibrary-ebooks/ |
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And now for something completely different, Retain method of purchase across used book transfers. |
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03-02-2011, 03:13 PM | #111 |
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Living in a low-population state (only one really large city, the rest of the state is pretty rural), consortia are the only way our libraries can operate. My little local library has ebooks, but only because we belong to the state consortium. We also belong to a different consortium for p-books, but I don't hear anyone complaining about that.
Meemo is right - for a lot of libraries, it's either consortia or no ebooks at all. I really don't understand the publisher war on libraries - as I stated earlier, it's a monstrous case of biting the hand that feeds you. Biting it clean off. |
03-02-2011, 04:54 PM | #112 |
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Precisely. It's just outrageous. Libraries create readers, and readers buy the books that publishers sell. In a world where there are so many other entertainment options, why do they want to marginalize books even more by making them less available to people?
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03-03-2011, 01:54 PM | #113 |
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This is completely outrageous. I am a book buyer today because my mother took me to the library when I was younger. Not only do I find new authors whose books I then might decide to buy but I also read lots of other things which I might not want to actually own. I suppose some kind of lending limit makes sense to publishers but it makes no sense to me. You can't really compare to p-books which eventually are damaged beyond use; e-books don't get damaged by use. If you must however have lending limits 26 seems crazy. In Cleveland, where I live my library has a fairly large selection of e-books but it also a large number of borrowers so having to replace licenses after only 26 books would price them out of the market. Is this what H/C wants? Someone said that they don't think e-books should be part of library inventory because ebook readers are the province of people with the discretionary income to afford them. Maybe that is H/C's true goal. Maybe they really do want to make ebooks only accessible to "certain" people.
And geographic restrictions - I thought the thing that made the internet so wonderful was less restrictions on people not more. What difference does it possibly make where I live if I want to borrow a book electronically as long as I have internet access. It's not like a p-book where if I take it out of the jurisdiction they can't get it back. With Overdrive the book is only "active" for the borrowing period and then I can't access it anymore. During bad economic times more people use libraries then ever. Why in the world does H/C think that restricting access is going to make economic sense. If people are using the library because they can't afford p-books and e-books cost the same as p-books (or almost), which people can't afford, and you restrict access by libraries .... (can you say circular logic?) ... seems like shooting yourself in the foot to me. I can feel Andrew Carnegie turning over in his grave |
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The logic that only certain people can afford ereaders is only true for now - it's not hard to imagine a future where everyone has one, where they hand them out in schools, where they're as cheap as electronic calculators (which once cost more than ereaders do now). So we can't allow this to stand - it's the thin edge of the wedge. We can't let the publishers call the shots for *our* libraries. |
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I completely agree. I'm sending a letter to H/C and telling everyone I know to do the same, even people who don't have e-readers now. |
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One library fights back:
Librarians poking holes in HarperCollins new rules (with video) http://www.the-digital-reader.com/20...l+Reader+blog+) |
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My library would just get it through Interlibrary Loan, so the only one who would benefit would be the Post Office. |
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Now if too many people use Phil. the waiting list will be too long so people will still prefer their local branch. And Phil. may decide it needs to concentrate on its local citizens first. But this doesn't seem like it's the publishers' business. The Singapore library is a different kettle of fish. It gives an account to anyone with a passport. It also has a decent collection. |
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03-13-2011, 09:07 AM | #120 |
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Long live -- and multiply -- the public domain. Copyright is no longer a valid concept in the digital age -- no matter how long it takes for people to realize it and start acting accordingly. The technology has outrun our economic (and political) models.
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