Next format for calibre to generate? - Page 3

mores · 12-21-2008, 03:17 PM

well with all this talk about calibre, I decided to give it another try.
I was too dumb to figure it out the first time around

So now I actually realize, this is on the verge of becoming an iTunes-style organizational tool for my books.

But, I can only select LRF or ePUB output in the Mac version.
Since I still read with mobipocket on my p1i, I'd tend to support PRC/mobi.
But if Mobipocket is going to keep resisting us Mac users, then I'll change my allegiance to eReader

llasram · 12-21-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kiklop74

Take a look at the attached epub file. It was produced using feeds2epub from command line.

Yeah, the issue is purely one of the available fonts having the necessary glyphs, which the AdobeDE default fonts do not. I've attached a version in which I've embedded TeX Gyre Termes for comparison.

Calibre does not yet support direct font embedding, but you can use CSS tricks to make it use a font you just copy onto the via-USB-mountable portion of the device filesystem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiklop74

I was thinking that by specifying everything un UTF-32, assuming that the font is also unicode, we will have character match 1-1 and than it should display everything correctly.

Ah, I see. It doesn't quite work that way. The encoding just specifies the on-disk format. Using Unicode, as long as the content creator and consumer agree on and support the encoding, the rendering software will identify the same characters in the input regardless of the encoding used.

kiklop74 · 12-21-2008, 03:49 PM

I tried that option (specifying fonts in css) but it only works with actual downloaded pages. It is not applied to the toc and index pages and furthermore rendering of the layout is inferior compared to lrf. I guess I'll stick with lrf until epub support improves.

zelda_pinwheel · 12-21-2008, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llasram

Calibre does not yet support direct font embedding, but you can use CSS tricks to make it use a font you just copy onto the via-USB-mountable portion of the device filesystem.

nice, i was just wondering about precisely that ! can you exlain exactly where to put the fonts on a 700, and what css tricks to use ?

llasram · 12-21-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

nice, i was just wondering about precisely that ! can you exlain exactly where to put the fonts on a 700, and what css tricks to use ?

Here's what I believe was the original thread on Sony Reader EPUB external font references.

zelda_pinwheel · 12-21-2008, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llasram

Here's what I believe was the original thread on Sony Reader EPUB external font references.

thanks !

pilotbob · 12-21-2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mores

But, I can only select LRF or ePUB output in the Mac version.

Not true. In the "save single file format" you can select any of the selected formats. Then when you choose "Save only XXX format to disk" it will only same the selected format. The message will display whatever format you have selected. You can use "Save to disk" to put the books on your reader.

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theodoron · 12-21-2008, 07:18 PM

Since I am new and have not experienced all of the formats, I would vote for Mobi. I love Calibre and found about it on this forum. A straight conversion from PRC/Mobi to LRF would be great.

orwell2k · 12-22-2008, 06:10 AM

How about FB2 (FictionBook 2) format - so many great readers are able to handle this format, either intrinsically (e.g. BeBook) or with easy add-in software (e.g. iLiad/DR1000).

FB2 is a great XML-based format that allows some nice formatting, handles images (so good for tecxt books), and the reader implementations tend to have very nice formatting and font choice/sizing options, making it easy for everyone to tailor their display to suit personal preferences (something which even the best Mobi implementations (e.g. iLiad) really do not offer).

And FB2 is a great choice with the improvements and wider acceptance of open source eReader firmware alternatives such as OpenInkpot.

And as a Mac user I would like a great Mac OS X tool for creating good FB2 format eBooks (I like BookDesigner4 at the moment, but have to run it under Windows using VMWare Fusion).

But I'm guessing there'll only be a few of us hardcore FB2 fanatics, so my second choice would be MOBI - great format for releasing the DRM and for wide selection of titles, crap format for reader implementations - even good reader implementations (e.g. on DR1000S) are pretty lame compared to what many other readers can do.

luqmaninbmore · 12-22-2008, 11:11 AM

I vote for the ability to convert lrf, mobi, and lit to html and rtf. That way I can enjoy the the books uploaded to Mobileread on my Android phone.

itimpi · 12-22-2008, 11:16 AM

If you are using Windows, then you can get LIT and LRF converters that will output HTML and RTF for free from http://www.processtext.com/

LRF to HTML is also supported by calibre if you use the Command Line interface.

llasram · 12-22-2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luqmaninbmore

I vote for the ability to convert lrf, mobi, and lit to html and rtf. That way I can enjoy the the books uploaded to Mobileread on my Android phone.

This poll is for what format Calibre should convert *to* next. Calibre can already convert *from* all those formats to HTML, although lrf2html is a touch rocky.

kovidgoyal · 12-22-2008, 12:44 PM

lrf2html in calibre is incomplete and does not work at all at the moment.

llasram · 12-29-2008, 05:59 PM

I probably should have put a time-out on this poll... Anyway, recount is finished and Mobipocket it is. Especially since I've already started working on it

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JSWolf · 12-29-2008, 06:15 PM

What I would like is a well written lrf2html.

View Poll Results: What's the next target format calibre should support?
Mobipocket -- it's the most popular.	65	70.65%
eReader -- there are many tools for Mobipocket already.	16	17.39%
Something else -- I'll let you know what in a comment.	11	11.96%
Voters: 92. You may not vote on this poll

12-22-2008, 06:10 AM	#39
orwell2k Addict Posts: 357 Karma: 1112 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Euroland Device: PocketBook 360°, BeBook (Hanlin V3), iRex DR1000S, iPad	FB2 format for Calibre - please! How about FB2 (FictionBook 2) format - so many great readers are able to handle this format, either intrinsically (e.g. BeBook) or with easy add-in software (e.g. iLiad/DR1000). FB2 is a great XML-based format that allows some nice formatting, handles images (so good for tecxt books), and the reader implementations tend to have very nice formatting and font choice/sizing options, making it easy for everyone to tailor their display to suit personal preferences (something which even the best Mobi implementations (e.g. iLiad) really do not offer). And FB2 is a great choice with the improvements and wider acceptance of open source eReader firmware alternatives such as OpenInkpot. And as a Mac user I would like a great Mac OS X tool for creating good FB2 format eBooks (I like BookDesigner4 at the moment, but have to run it under Windows using VMWare Fusion). But I'm guessing there'll only be a few of us hardcore FB2 fanatics, so my second choice would be MOBI - great format for releasing the DRM and for wide selection of titles, crap format for reader implementations - even good reader implementations (e.g. on DR1000S) are pretty lame compared to what many other readers can do. Last edited by orwell2k; 12-22-2008 at 06:19 AM.

12-22-2008, 11:16 AM	#41
itimpi Wizard Posts: 4,552 Karma: 950151 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: Sony PRS-950, iphone/ipad (Marvin/iBooks/QuickReader)	If you are using Windows, then you can get LIT and LRF converters that will output HTML and RTF for free from http://www.processtext.com/ LRF to HTML is also supported by calibre if you use the Command Line interface. Last edited by itimpi; 12-22-2008 at 11:21 AM.

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12-21-2008, 03:17 PM	#31
mores Guru Posts: 834 Karma: 102419 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vienna, Austria Device: iPhone	well with all this talk about calibre, I decided to give it another try. I was too dumb to figure it out the first time around So now I actually realize, this is on the verge of becoming an iTunes-style organizational tool for my books. But, I can only select LRF or ePUB output in the Mac version. Since I still read with mobipocket on my p1i, I'd tend to support PRC/mobi. But if Mobipocket is going to keep resisting us Mac users, then I'll change my allegiance to eReader

12-21-2008, 03:49 PM	#33
kiklop74 Guru Posts: 800 Karma: 194644 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Argentina Device: Kindle Voyage	I tried that option (specifying fonts in css) but it only works with actual downloaded pages. It is not applied to the toc and index pages and furthermore rendering of the layout is inferior compared to lrf. I guess I'll stick with lrf until epub support improves.

12-21-2008, 07:18 PM	#38
theodoron Inspector Gadget Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2008 Device: Sony PRS700BC	Since I am new and have not experienced all of the formats, I would vote for Mobi. I love Calibre and found about it on this forum. A straight conversion from PRC/Mobi to LRF would be great.

12-22-2008, 11:11 AM	#40
luqmaninbmore Da'i Posts: 1,144 Karma: 1217499 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Baltimore Device: Toshiba Thrive, Kobo Touch, Kindle 1, Aluratek Libre, T-Mobile Comet	I vote for the ability to convert lrf, mobi, and lit to html and rtf. That way I can enjoy the the books uploaded to Mobileread on my Android phone.

12-22-2008, 12:44 PM	#43
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,853 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	lrf2html in calibre is incomplete and does not work at all at the moment.

12-29-2008, 05:59 PM	#44
llasram Reticulator of Tharn Posts: 618 Karma: 400000 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: EST Device: Sony PRS-505	I probably should have put a time-out on this poll... Anyway, recount is finished and Mobipocket it is. Especially since I've already started working on it .

12-29-2008, 06:15 PM	#45
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,958 Karma: 128903250 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	What I would like is a well written lrf2html.

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