Long 'Formatting...' time

Magnum · 07-16-2009, 12:58 AM

Just got my PRS-505. LOVE it.

Main complaint? Large .lrf files hang at 'Formatting...' forever! The little animation stops, too. The first time this happened it eventually sorted itself, and bam - there was my book. Finally.

I've been sitting here ten minutes. Not sure how long I'm supposed to be waiting as I don't know how many pages are supposed to be in this book.

For what it's worth, I downloaded .lrf files. No conversion. So um.

How do I interrupt the reader to cancel? Can I do that?

Kostas · 07-16-2009, 02:05 AM

Hi Magnum,

Are you transferring your lrf via sony software or direclty by drag'n'drop?
In the first case, Sony's software is supposed to preformat the file which thus should open quite quickly on your prs.

dordale · 07-16-2009, 02:07 AM

Magnum--
Did you use the Sony Connect software to transfer the files to your reader? The Sony Connect software "pre-paginates" LRF files so they shouldn't take to long to load once their on your Sony.

One of the only reasons I use the Connect software...

Hope you enjoy your reader!

dordale

dordale · 07-16-2009, 02:10 AM

Looks like Kostas beat me with the reply.

dordale

Ea · 07-16-2009, 04:20 AM

I use Calibre with my Reader. In the beginning I experienced very long pre-pagination times, too. Once it took 30 min (it was a very long book, but still).

Now I don't remember exactly - but I think that after I ran the costumizer hack the second time, it helped. At least it got better after I'd had the reader for some weeks. Sorry I can't give you a better description, but I'm simply not what helped me, but I did have the same issue. Now I don't expect it to take more than 4-5 min. max.

gwynevans · 07-16-2009, 06:40 AM

For big books, it'd probably be worth exporting them from Calibre to disk, then using the Sony eBook Library to load them & thus have it to pre-paginate them. I don't bother myself, but I suspect that I read shorter books, as I don't recall having to wait anything like that sort of duration.

Another option might be to convert them to ePub rather than LRF, if that's feasible, as that doesn't have the same startup issues, although that brings it's own set of compromises...

Ea · 07-16-2009, 07:13 AM

I've set the basic font size to my preferred fint size. That way I only need to wait once.

JSWolf · 07-16-2009, 08:49 AM

I've been using eBook Library to transfer ePub and LRF to my 505 and I don't have to wait to open my LRF format eBooks. eBook Library sorts out the pagination for the 505 so the 505 does not have to do it. It also saves battery as well as paginating takes battery when it has to do so.

Magnum · 07-16-2009, 11:01 AM

I've been using Calibre for everything. Maybe I'll try using the Sony tool. A big shame Calibre doesn't take care of this.

kovidgoyal · 07-16-2009, 11:05 AM

Switch to using EPUB instead and you wont have to wait.

Magnum · 07-18-2009, 09:55 PM

Using the Sony software after converting in Calibre did the trick. kovidgoyal, Calibre is *awesome* and I love it - as the developer, do you have any insight as to why Calibre doesn't index the same way as the Sony software? I'd like to have Calibre be my one-stop book management solution.

I'm fairly new to this, so I'll see about EPUB format as well. Thanks for the tips everyone!

doreenjoy · 07-19-2009, 12:57 AM

Never mind, answered my own question.

kovidgoyal · 07-19-2009, 12:15 PM

Because in order to implement this feature, I would have to *exactly* reverse engineer the layout algorithm SONY uses for LRF files. That task would take more time than all the rest of the calibre development combined

07-16-2009, 12:58 AM	#1
Magnum :3 Posts: 5 Karma: 210 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Device: Sony PRS-505 (Sangria!)	Long 'Formatting...' time Just got my PRS-505. LOVE it. Main complaint? Large .lrf files hang at 'Formatting...' forever! The little animation stops, too. The first time this happened it eventually sorted itself, and bam - there was my book. Finally. I've been sitting here ten minutes. Not sure how long I'm supposed to be waiting as I don't know how many pages are supposed to be in this book. For what it's worth, I downloaded .lrf files. No conversion. So um. How do I interrupt the reader to cancel? Can I do that?

07-19-2009, 12:57 AM	#12
doreenjoy 01000100 01001010 Posts: 1,889 Karma: 2400000 Join Date: Mar 2009 Device: Polyamorous	Never mind, answered my own question. Last edited by doreenjoy; 07-19-2009 at 01:09 AM.

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07-16-2009, 02:05 AM	#2
Kostas Still wondering why Posts: 253 Karma: 800 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Athens, Greece Device: PRS 505, (BlackBerry Bold ?)	Hi Magnum, Are you transferring your lrf via sony software or direclty by drag'n'drop? In the first case, Sony's software is supposed to preformat the file which thus should open quite quickly on your prs.

07-16-2009, 02:07 AM	#3
dordale Wizard Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma	Magnum-- Did you use the Sony Connect software to transfer the files to your reader? The Sony Connect software "pre-paginates" LRF files so they shouldn't take to long to load once their on your Sony. One of the only reasons I use the Connect software... Hope you enjoy your reader! dordale

07-16-2009, 02:10 AM	#4
dordale Wizard Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma	Looks like Kostas beat me with the reply. dordale

07-16-2009, 04:20 AM	#5
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	I use Calibre with my Reader. In the beginning I experienced very long pre-pagination times, too. Once it took 30 min (it was a very long book, but still). Now I don't remember exactly - but I think that after I ran the costumizer hack the second time, it helped. At least it got better after I'd had the reader for some weeks. Sorry I can't give you a better description, but I'm simply not what helped me, but I did have the same issue. Now I don't expect it to take more than 4-5 min. max.

07-16-2009, 06:40 AM	#6
gwynevans Wizzard Posts: 1,402 Karma: 2000000 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK Device: iPad 2, iPhone 6s, Kindle Voyage & Kindle PaperWhite	For big books, it'd probably be worth exporting them from Calibre to disk, then using the Sony eBook Library to load them & thus have it to pre-paginate them. I don't bother myself, but I suspect that I read shorter books, as I don't recall having to wait anything like that sort of duration. Another option might be to convert them to ePub rather than LRF, if that's feasible, as that doesn't have the same startup issues, although that brings it's own set of compromises...

07-16-2009, 07:13 AM	#7
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	I've set the basic font size to my preferred fint size. That way I only need to wait once.

07-16-2009, 08:49 AM	#8
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 73,983 Karma: 128903378 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I've been using eBook Library to transfer ePub and LRF to my 505 and I don't have to wait to open my LRF format eBooks. eBook Library sorts out the pagination for the 505 so the 505 does not have to do it. It also saves battery as well as paginating takes battery when it has to do so.

07-16-2009, 11:01 AM	#9
Magnum :3 Posts: 5 Karma: 210 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Device: Sony PRS-505 (Sangria!)	I've been using Calibre for everything. Maybe I'll try using the Sony tool. A big shame Calibre doesn't take care of this.

07-16-2009, 11:05 AM	#10
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,858 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Switch to using EPUB instead and you wont have to wait.

07-18-2009, 09:55 PM	#11
Magnum :3 Posts: 5 Karma: 210 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Device: Sony PRS-505 (Sangria!)	Using the Sony software after converting in Calibre did the trick. kovidgoyal, Calibre is awesome and I love it - as the developer, do you have any insight as to why Calibre doesn't index the same way as the Sony software? I'd like to have Calibre be my one-stop book management solution. I'm fairly new to this, so I'll see about EPUB format as well. Thanks for the tips everyone!

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07-19-2009, 12:15 PM	#13
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 43,858 Karma: 22666666 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Because in order to implement this feature, I would have to exactly reverse engineer the layout algorithm SONY uses for LRF files. That task would take more time than all the rest of the calibre development combined