to iRex: how to improve the ui

vvoi666 · 07-21-2006, 05:34 AM

since some of us have had their iliad for a few days now, post your suggestions for an improved ui here (i hope they're still working on that and that it's not too late)

here is what came to my mind after using the iliad for a day (more to follow)

the book list:
- the listing of six titles per page is not enough. decrease the height of the displayed info box and bump it up to at least eight or ten books per page
- display of the titles is less than optimal. show the whole filename/title, not just the first thirteen characters. use the full width for the title and move further book infos to the next line
- i hope there will be some kind of database added to the 'bookshelf' so that i can add author and other info. showing the filename is not enough.
- there should be an option to group the books by author so that i don't have to click through ten pages (which is a pain in the a.. on the iliad) to get to the book i want
- the possibility to mark books read/unread would be appreciated
- if i insert a memory card/usb stick and there is a 'books' folder on it, the books from this folder should automatically be included in the book listing (when i click the 'books' button)
- the icon in front of the book listings is not necessary (in my opinion). i know that it's a book. so why display an icon for it. use the space to display more infos

edit:
reg. grouping by author:
maybe they can even add categories and genres, so that i can jump into the fiction/nonfiction, studies/personal or horror/science fiction section of my bookshelf.
thinking of it, they should have tree like this ->
category (for study/job ...) > genre (like horror/exams ...) > author > book listings
and they should add a favourites entry and maybe one for the last five books read (all accessible from the first page of the bookshelf with the category listings)

edit2:
corrected several spelling errors

vvoi666 · 07-21-2006, 06:04 AM

my perfect 'books' starting page would look like this (sorry for bad graphics).
all the entries would be linked to the matching file/category/whatever

ElaHuguet · 07-21-2006, 06:41 AM

Hear, hear, I like your starting page! Add 1 vote to that.

Riocaz · 07-21-2006, 06:44 AM

Yup, make that 3

tribble · 07-21-2006, 07:15 AM

I agree mostly, but i would like to see icons, to reflect the different readers. But they can be WAY smaller.

masc · 07-22-2006, 06:06 PM

I think an other improve for the PDF Reader GUI would be to add a minmize button for the relatively high navigation bar on the bottom. This would then increase the viewable size for the PDF.

ElaHuguet · 07-23-2006, 02:56 AM

I think the menu should pop down completely (like you can do with the taskbar in Windows), and should only show up if you take the stylus out, since you can't use it anyway without it.

High 5 · 07-23-2006, 03:25 AM

I must confess that I find the news/books/docs/notes buttons quite convenient. Thumbs up there.
Vvoi's starting page would be awesome!
It would add greatly to the userfriendlyness of the Iliads interface.

deadite66 · 07-23-2006, 04:13 AM

displaying more of a book name would be a start, always hated that on the franklin ebookman where i had a series of books a couldn't see the book number so ended up having to open each book for clues to the sequence.

DHer · 07-23-2006, 06:34 AM

yes, these 10 characters don't really cut it. What about changeable font sizes?

"last read" would be really great. I really like your interface.

until iRex delivers you might just use folders to get a reasonable structure.

tribble · 07-23-2006, 07:13 AM

You should have multiple views of your files.
Last read would be really useful.
They should have a clock in the iconbar.
They should rearrange the main menu. Put settings and reference manuals last. (you usually need them only once each).

tribble · 07-23-2006, 08:14 AM

This is more like what i want to see (just a quick sketch).
Especially, the status indicators (current page/totalpage) and if notes are taken. (maybe a bookmark indicator aswell, and a button to jump to the bookmarkpage directly)
A search button and a way to select the sort order.

deadite66 · 07-23-2006, 08:18 AM

looks good tribble

R2D2 · 07-23-2006, 08:33 AM

I heard that the 2.5 update will show us longer filenames...

tribble · 07-23-2006, 08:38 AM

Who needs OS 2.5? I just progged a new fileviewer

See it at work

07-21-2006, 05:34 AM	#1
vvoi666 Zealot Posts: 100 Karma: 29 Join Date: May 2006	to iRex: how to improve the ui since some of us have had their iliad for a few days now, post your suggestions for an improved ui here (i hope they're still working on that and that it's not too late) here is what came to my mind after using the iliad for a day (more to follow) the book list: - the listing of six titles per page is not enough. decrease the height of the displayed info box and bump it up to at least eight or ten books per page - display of the titles is less than optimal. show the whole filename/title, not just the first thirteen characters. use the full width for the title and move further book infos to the next line - i hope there will be some kind of database added to the 'bookshelf' so that i can add author and other info. showing the filename is not enough. - there should be an option to group the books by author so that i don't have to click through ten pages (which is a pain in the a.. on the iliad) to get to the book i want - the possibility to mark books read/unread would be appreciated - if i insert a memory card/usb stick and there is a 'books' folder on it, the books from this folder should automatically be included in the book listing (when i click the 'books' button) - the icon in front of the book listings is not necessary (in my opinion). i know that it's a book. so why display an icon for it. use the space to display more infos edit: reg. grouping by author: maybe they can even add categories and genres, so that i can jump into the fiction/nonfiction, studies/personal or horror/science fiction section of my bookshelf. thinking of it, they should have tree like this -> category (for study/job ...) > genre (like horror/exams ...) > author > book listings and they should add a favourites entry and maybe one for the last five books read (all accessible from the first page of the bookshelf with the category listings) edit2: corrected several spelling errors Last edited by vvoi666; 07-21-2006 at 06:49 AM.

07-21-2006, 06:04 AM	#2
vvoi666 Zealot Posts: 100 Karma: 29 Join Date: May 2006	my perfect 'books' starting page would look like this (sorry for bad graphics). all the entries would be linked to the matching file/category/whatever Attached Thumbnails

07-23-2006, 08:14 AM	#12
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	This is more like what i want to see (just a quick sketch). Especially, the status indicators (current page/totalpage) and if notes are taken. (maybe a bookmark indicator aswell, and a button to jump to the bookmarkpage directly) A search button and a way to select the sort order. Attached Thumbnails

07-23-2006, 08:38 AM	#15
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	Who needs OS 2.5? I just progged a new fileviewer See it at work Attached Thumbnails

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07-21-2006, 06:41 AM	#3
ElaHuguet iLiad freak Posts: 339 Karma: 243 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mallorca, Spain Device: iRex iLiad	Hear, hear, I like your starting page! Add 1 vote to that.

07-21-2006, 06:44 AM	#4
Riocaz Fulfilled but not by iRex Posts: 932 Karma: 286846 Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Device: Far too many	Yup, make that 3

07-21-2006, 07:15 AM	#5
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	I agree mostly, but i would like to see icons, to reflect the different readers. But they can be WAY smaller.

07-22-2006, 06:06 PM	#6
masc Enthusiast Posts: 47 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Austria Device: iLiad	I think an other improve for the PDF Reader GUI would be to add a minmize button for the relatively high navigation bar on the bottom. This would then increase the viewable size for the PDF.

07-23-2006, 02:56 AM	#7
ElaHuguet iLiad freak Posts: 339 Karma: 243 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mallorca, Spain Device: iRex iLiad	I think the menu should pop down completely (like you can do with the taskbar in Windows), and should only show up if you take the stylus out, since you can't use it anyway without it.

07-23-2006, 03:25 AM	#8
High 5 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Posts: 152 Karma: 501 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Netherlands Device: Rocket ebook,Cybook, Hiebook, Iliad	I must confess that I find the news/books/docs/notes buttons quite convenient. Thumbs up there. Vvoi's starting page would be awesome! It would add greatly to the userfriendlyness of the Iliads interface.

07-23-2006, 04:13 AM	#9
deadite66 Groupie Posts: 197 Karma: 16 Join Date: Apr 2006 Device: irex iliad, uk Kindle gen3	displaying more of a book name would be a start, always hated that on the franklin ebookman where i had a series of books a couldn't see the book number so ended up having to open each book for clues to the sequence.

07-23-2006, 06:34 AM	#10
DHer Addict Posts: 261 Karma: 156 Join Date: Jul 2006 Device: iliad	yes, these 10 characters don't really cut it. What about changeable font sizes? "last read" would be really great. I really like your interface. until iRex delivers you might just use folders to get a reasonable structure.

07-23-2006, 07:13 AM	#11
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	You should have multiple views of your files. Last read would be really useful. They should have a clock in the iconbar. They should rearrange the main menu. Put settings and reference manuals last. (you usually need them only once each).

07-23-2006, 08:18 AM	#13
deadite66 Groupie Posts: 197 Karma: 16 Join Date: Apr 2006 Device: irex iliad, uk Kindle gen3	looks good tribble

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07-23-2006, 08:33 AM	#14
R2D2 Mad Scientist Posts: 294 Karma: 242 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Device: Zaurus, HTCMagician, iLiad	I heard that the 2.5 update will show us longer filenames...