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And, ironically, Barnes and Noble may prove to be another casualty of the Price fix. There is every indication that a good chunk of Apple's ebook market share is effectively coming out of B&N's hide. (Kobo, too.) One thing the price fix definitely "achieved" was to consolidate the US ebook market into the major walled gardens. The higher the garden walls, the better the platform has done. |
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Wow, I've pretty much only read about this whole thing here and on other sites that are reader-oriented. So reading some of those "pro-Apple" comments on the first link were an eye-opener!
Agency pricing has saved me thousands of dollars. I used to spend approx. $2000 a year on ebooks, mostly at Fictionwise. Once Agency pricing went in and *MMPB* pricing went up-up-up, I started borrowing more from the library. The habit is pretty ingrained now. (Stressing *MMPB* because I never bought hardback, so the arguments that overall Agency pricing on hardback books went down had no affect on my spending it all). One of the things I kept seeing in the comments was basically "if Apple got to be the one to offer the lowest price, how did that hurt consumers?!" But those comments are based on a sound-bite in the article...they don't realize that for many books, those "lower prices" were actually at least 20-25% higher than they had been before. My personal opinion about ebooks is that they should be priced at least 20-25% less than the paper versions, given the limitations (legalities around sharing, DRM, etc) of the ebook versions. Once retailers couldn't discount ebooks, I stopped buying them (for the most part). Last edited by FizzyWater; 06-06-2013 at 01:14 AM. Reason: fumble finger correction |
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Publishers should charge, for each product, the optimum revenue maximization price, and then pay editors and authors as much as that allows. Readers should buy what they can easily afford, and borrow the rest. |
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And retailers, after paying the publishers whatever price they set, should be able to sell to the public at whatever price is best for their business wether a high markup, a low markup or giving it away. This takes nothing away from the publishers or the authors who already have their money from when the book was sold to the retailer. Indeed the more books the retailer gives away the more money the authors get since before giving it away the retailer first has to buy it themselves. The money the authors get doesn't depend on the RETAIL price but only on the WHOLESALE price.
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That's considered an unfair, anti-competitive practice. The rules are there to try to make them compete by more consumer- and market-friendly means rather than by laying siege and starving everyone else out. You can argue if that's a good idea or not in the P&R forum. |
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It's their job to investigate and arbitrate if possible, penalize if necessary. With all the whining over Amazon pricing on books and everything else it is a safe bet that if they haven't acted, the have found nothing actionable. Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal...of_Competition Quote:
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And as the DOJ is proving at court today, they are keen to jump on any rich colluding company that tries to use its market power and deep pockets to buy into a new business at consumer expense.
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That was my point, and was what I said, wasn't it:
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Better make sure the structure of those crystals isn't cubic or the lumberjack will be followed by a horde of noisy ex-opera singers turned miners.
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Well this kind of explains why Apple thinks they did nothing wrong. Their ethic compass is broken.
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"The Apple e-books trial takes a detour into the absurd"
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