"Kindle Editions" showing up on Amazon - Page 2

anotherchance · 10-03-2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NatCh

Wow, nice find there, cjschmidt! The links don't seem to go anywhere yet, but I note there are 613 of them. Looks like Amazon is going for an integrated selling approach, rather than just leaning on Mobipocket's site.

613 "search results", but the "Kindle Book/Kindle Editions" run out pretty much half way down page 2. (Only 17 items at time of writing).

After that, its matching on some other method.

nekokami · 10-03-2007, 07:05 PM

Has anyone ever heard of any of these "Kindle Edition" authors? Most of the books don't seem to be available in other formats, and those that do seem to be very small press, often out of print. Just wondering....

Alisa · 10-03-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cjschmidt

Check this out
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b/...dition&x=0&y=0

Results for "Kindle Edition".
Lots of titles priced at $4.79

"Auto-delivered wirelessly to Kindle" in the shipping info.

Maybe we won't have to wait until the 15th after all?

Maybe I shouldn't have bought the new Sony Reader yesterday...

I noticed that $4.79 price on books where they were selling the paper version for $10. Now that seems like a way more attractive way to price ebooks.

jasonkchapman · 10-03-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nekokami

Has anyone ever heard of any of these "Kindle Edition" authors? Most of the books don't seem to be available in other formats, and those that do seem to be very small press, often out of print. Just wondering....

Those may well be the results of authors/publishers responding to the "Let us tell you how to make an e-book edition" links.

Aenea · 10-03-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BKeeper

Let's hope they don't introduce yet another DRM format.

Nah, they use the trusted and secure mobipocket DRM, ehhrmmm,

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Originally Posted by BKeeper

'just a link for the mobi format'

Why do I immediately think about the availability of the aenea.mobi domain? Strange...

Aenea

anotherchance · 10-03-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Alisa

I noticed that $4.79 price on books where they were selling the paper version for $10. Now that seems like a way more attractive way to price ebooks.

Discount of $5.21. Okay. Not bad.

My first Sony purchase for my new PRS-505 will most likely be Alan Alda's memoirs. $13.95 in Borders, $7.96 on Connect. Discount of $5.99. I win!!

vivaldirules · 10-03-2007, 09:41 PM

For days I've searched Amazon for Kindle and keep finding that bloody lamp. Hey, wait a minute. Maybe that's the new ebook reader! Maybe that thing that looks like a lamp shade is really a lightweight, large screen, backlit display!! And it's fully powered!!! Not very portable, though. Kinda big, actually. Sigh. Never mind.

JSWolf · 10-03-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by da_jane

Jon! Are you dissing my iPhone that I am completely having a love affair with, having tossed the Sony Reader to the side like a used tissue?

I should also have added a front light. A front light. Sigh. That's the stuff dreams are made of.

I'm dissin ALL iPhones. Apple is becoming a bad idea for a company.

jasonkchapman · 10-04-2007, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BKeeper

Told you, what a great month.

Let's hope they don't introduce yet another DRM format.

It wouldn't make much sense. I think their use of '"Kindle Edition" comes more from marketing and not from a technical difference. They probably want to offer a unified platform which makes things easier for the consumer.

They have a problem with selling MobiPocket editions through Amazon that no one seems to have considered, though. MobiPocket, the company, has a dealer network through which they wholesale their distributor catalog. MobiPocket, the Web store, avoids competing with the dealer network on price. If Amazon sells MobiPocket books directly to consumers, they will be competing with their own dealer network. That leaves a few choices:

1. Sell MobiPocket books directly at Amazon-like pricing and kiss the dealers goodbye.

2. Alter the format so that they can contractually say they're not competing and make it a Kindle-only proposition.

3. Shift the MobiPocket deals with the publishers into Amazon/Kindle contracts and kill off MobiPocket, absorb MobiPocket's assets, and try to walk away with the whole shebang.

4. Sell MobiPocket format books but only deliver directly to Kindle units (thus, not competing with the dealer network)

HarryT · 10-04-2007, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BKeeper

Worst case scenario?

Amazon will launch a reader with that crappy design and a new and exclusive DRM format. In that case they better have the entire amazon catalog available in "Kindle Edition"....

Realistically, Amazon are the only company around with the "clout" to exert sufficient pressure on publishers to make exactly that happen. Let's hope they go with MobiPocket format (it would seem crazy to do otherwise, since they own MP). Could be a VERY exciting step forward for eBooks!

andym · 10-04-2007, 08:52 AM

Um I'm sorry to be a party pooper, but all these search finds have picked up is references to 'kindle' and/or 'edition' in the blurb or wherever. There is not one reference to a 'kindle edition'.

I'd really like to be able to buy direct from Amazon rather than mobipocket but right now you can't.

CommanderROR · 10-04-2007, 09:08 AM

@andym

They had "Kindle Editions'" listed yesterday but pulled them today.

They'll surely be back once the Kindle has become official news...^^
I'm not sure why the "Kindle Edition" titles were there yesterday, but I guess it was either a mistake (unlikely) or a "probe" to see whehter people notice and how they react.
The links were dead yesterday, but that's to be expected since you are supposed to get these titles delivered to your Kindle via wireless and since there is no Kindle yet...

anotherchance · 10-04-2007, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CommanderROR

The links were dead yesterday, but that's to be expected since you are supposed to get these titles delivered to your Kindle via wireless and since there is no Kindle yet...

Something bothers me about the whole "delivered wirelessly" thing. As someone calculated in another thread, at his current rate of 1 book every 1.5 or 2 weeks, he's only got another ~875 books to read in his life and "he has to make choices". Considering the unproven lifespan of these ebook devices (5 years reasonable?), he'd only need to load about 130-170 books onto the device in that time. Is it really worth it to have wireless connection just for that, when a quick USB synch would accomplish the same thing?

I dunno, it's vaporware anyway at this point, so it's open to interpretation, but it does seem a bit of a waste of effort to me. If the Kindle is going to be a wireless device, it MUST have a wider use than just ebooks (such as Internet browsing), and last thing I would need is another wireless bill every month... (especially when I get free internet on my work Blackberry anyway).

CommanderROR · 10-04-2007, 09:40 AM

I hope they'll make it WiFi and optional...I never bother with WiFi for the Iliad because I just plug it into the router for updates and transfer things by cable from my computer (I don't do it that often after all) or directly by cardreader to the SD card...

We should know more soon, but I think a lot of things could go wrong with the Kindle and we'll just have to wait and see whether they do or not...

Having the OPTION of buying things directly from inside the Kindle would be cool however...since it would mean prople who don't own o use a computer could also be brought on board, but here in Germany Wifi hotspots that are few and far between and the one that are available are very expensive...and having some kind of "mobile-phone-network" thingy going on does not sound like a very good idea to me either because it's sure to cost more money...and I for one am not made of money...

cjschmidt · 10-04-2007, 10:03 AM

My thought is that they've worked out some kind of deal with one of the big cell companies so they get a piece of each book/newspaper downloaded over their tower. I really can't see people buying a $400 reader and paying a monthly fee just for the opportunity to pay more money for a electronic version of a book that may or may not be as good as the dead-tree kind. Amazon is way too smart to try that - it just won't work.

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10-03-2007, 07:05 PM	#17
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	Has anyone ever heard of any of these "Kindle Edition" authors? Most of the books don't seem to be available in other formats, and those that do seem to be very small press, often out of print. Just wondering....

10-03-2007, 09:41 PM	#22
vivaldirules When's Doughnut Day? Posts: 10,059 Karma: 13675475 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, TX, US Device: Sony PRS-505, iPad	For days I've searched Amazon for Kindle and keep finding that bloody lamp. Hey, wait a minute. Maybe that's the new ebook reader! Maybe that thing that looks like a lamp shade is really a lightweight, large screen, backlit display!! And it's fully powered!!! Not very portable, though. Kinda big, actually. Sigh. Never mind.

10-04-2007, 08:52 AM	#26
andym Groupie Posts: 189 Karma: 793 Join Date: Oct 2006	Um I'm sorry to be a party pooper, but all these search finds have picked up is references to 'kindle' and/or 'edition' in the blurb or wherever. There is not one reference to a 'kindle edition'. I'd really like to be able to buy direct from Amazon rather than mobipocket but right now you can't.

10-04-2007, 09:08 AM	#27
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	@andym They had "Kindle Editions'" listed yesterday but pulled them today. They'll surely be back once the Kindle has become official news...^^ I'm not sure why the "Kindle Edition" titles were there yesterday, but I guess it was either a mistake (unlikely) or a "probe" to see whehter people notice and how they react. The links were dead yesterday, but that's to be expected since you are supposed to get these titles delivered to your Kindle via wireless and since there is no Kindle yet...

10-04-2007, 09:40 AM	#29
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	I hope they'll make it WiFi and optional...I never bother with WiFi for the Iliad because I just plug it into the router for updates and transfer things by cable from my computer (I don't do it that often after all) or directly by cardreader to the SD card... We should know more soon, but I think a lot of things could go wrong with the Kindle and we'll just have to wait and see whether they do or not... Having the OPTION of buying things directly from inside the Kindle would be cool however...since it would mean prople who don't own o use a computer could also be brought on board, but here in Germany Wifi hotspots that are few and far between and the one that are available are very expensive...and having some kind of "mobile-phone-network" thingy going on does not sound like a very good idea to me either because it's sure to cost more money...and I for one am not made of money...

10-04-2007, 10:03 AM	#30
cjschmidt Thyme Lord Posts: 39 Karma: 118 Join Date: Oct 2007 Device: PRS-505	My thought is that they've worked out some kind of deal with one of the big cell companies so they get a piece of each book/newspaper downloaded over their tower. I really can't see people buying a $400 reader and paying a monthly fee just for the opportunity to pay more money for a electronic version of a book that may or may not be as good as the dead-tree kind. Amazon is way too smart to try that - it just won't work.

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