Yet another TOC question

[Jabby]

I was making an epub and at around 60 TOC entries, Sigil refused to take any more.

Are there TOC entry limits. If so, does anybody know what they are. I need about two hundred or so and was wondering if there are any work arounds (multiple levels maybe)?

Thanks and regards - John

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Jabby

I was making an epub and at around 60 TOC entries, Sigil refused to take any more.

Are there TOC entry limits. If so, does anybody know what they are. I need about two hundred or so and was wondering if there are any work arounds (multiple levels maybe)?

Thanks and regards - John

Are you sure?
I did a book that the Roman numerals exceeded CXXX (130 for the roman challenged )

[jhempel24]

Originally Posted by Jabby

I was making an epub and at around 60 TOC entries, Sigil refused to take any more.

Are there TOC entry limits. If so, does anybody know what they are. I need about two hundred or so and was wondering if there are any work arounds (multiple levels maybe)?

Thanks and regards - John

It happens to me all the time, I have to either A.) open a new page and go back to the previous one and do it, or B.) manually add the tags to every other page

[Toxaris]

Afaik there is no real limit. In Sigil I made more than 90 chapters without problems which also works. That was some releases ago, but I can imagine there is a limit now.
Are all the chapters in one file or have you split the file into separate files for each chapter?

[theducks]

Just to clarify.
Those 130+ items in a TOC wer h3's split amoung h2 "parts", not 130+ h3's under a single H2

[Jabby]

Hi all-
After ducks made his first reply I went back and took another look. Let me explain what I was doing.

My wife has been keeping a record of the books she has read; so that she doesn't acquire books she has already read. She created a text file by author. I sorted it with PSPad and converted it to epub via Calibre. This gave me one file with many lines (about 300 authors and 2,000 books). I started down the list putting the cursor in front of he author and clicking h3. I got to somewhere between 60 and 65 when it refused to to go any further. After trying retyping and hand coding etc. I gave op and sent the original message. Thats history.

The project is now finished and is alive and well on a Sony PRS-350.

I started with a fresh epub file and first broke it up into the A-B's C-D's etc. I then assigned the appropriate h2 title and and proceeded as above. When I was done the largest page had 46 authors. (books don't count )

I still have the file that was giving me problems so I might go back and see if there is a limit or here was something wrong with the file. Right now the wife is happy - therefore so am I.

I want to thank all for the help!

Regards - John

P.S. Now the wife wants her address book on her Sony. Maybe I'll find time for some of my projects one of these days.

[theducks]

60 chapters in a single file is a wee bit excessive

Sigil split that (at 50) and you are good to go for another 50.


I don't think TOC was intended to be used like that.

You might look a Calibre (you can create a book-less "library" from an ISBN list. what I do for my dead tree collection) .
There is a "Catalog" that can be built out of the meta-data.

[Jabby]

Originally Posted by theducks

60 chapters in a single file is a wee bit excessive

Whew! I'm glad that is only a "wee bit".

Sigil split that (at 50) and you are good to go for another 50.


I don't think TOC was intended to be used like that.

If it can't be pushed, you can count on me to pull.

You might look a Calibre (you can create a book-less "library" from an ISBN list. what I do for my dead tree collection) .
There is a "Catalog" that can be built out of the meta-data.

I played with it awhile but was never able to get the output I wanted and finally gave up since I really didn't need it. However, Calibre is great for keeping my eBooks and will probably become more useful when I get around to getting familiar with regex.

BTW, do you know how to keep a <hx title statement from creating a blank line? I finally added a style=font-size:0 and that did it (well almost), but that can't be the proper way to do it.

Regards - John

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Jabby

I played with it awhile but was never able to get the output I wanted and finally gave up since I really didn't need it. However, Calibre is great for keeping my eBooks and will probably become more useful when I get around to getting familiar with regex.

BTW, do you know how to keep a <hx title statement from creating a blank line? I finally added a style=font-size:0 and that did it (well almost), but that can't be the proper way to do it.

Regards - John

make a no_height class in the stylesheet (code not tested)

h2.no_height {
margin: 0;
padding: 0
}

and assign
class="no_height" to those headers

[Jabby]

Originally Posted by theducks

make a no_height class in the stylesheet (code not tested)

h2.no_height {
margin: 0;
padding: 0
}

and assign
class="no_height" to those headers

That worked although "padding: 0" wasn't needed. But another strange thing happened.

When I converted the text file to epub there was a class=calibre that I think Sigil, at some point, inserted in its normal <body style="">. When that statement was missing I got the "almost" to the top. The active statement was "margin-top:0".

Life is confusing. Just when I think I'm getting things sorted out this happens. Why does a "margin:0", which I did not know existed until you told me, be dependent on an earlier "margin-top:0" to function. BTW, neither can be omitted nor can they be exchanged. Go figure!

Regards - John

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Jabby

That worked although "padding: 0" wasn't needed. But another strange thing happened.

When I converted the text file to epub there was a class=calibre that I think Sigil, at some point, inserted in its normal <body style="">. When that statement was missing I got the "almost" to the top. The active statement was "margin-top:0".

Life is confusing. Just when I think I'm getting things sorted out this happens. Why does a "margin:0", which I did not know existed until you told me, be dependent on an earlier "margin-top:0" to function. BTW, neither can be omitted nor can they be exchanged. Go figure!

Regards - John

Margin: 0 is a shorthand for All margins (top,right,bottom,left) to the same value (in this case 0), otherwise, you may need to set either/and Margin-bottom and margin-top

[theducks]

Originally Posted by theducks

Margin: 0 is a shorthand for All margins (top,right,bottom,left) to the same value (in this case 0), otherwise, you may need to set either/and Margin-bottom and margin-top

I did not define h2 as it's own box(block), so outer styles are inherited.
Inserting display: block;into the style may settle things out.

[cybmole]

when I got into this blank line at top issue I discovered that h tags default to block and html block is defined as having space above & below.

so you're gonna have to over-rule those defaults somehow.

For my Kindle, I just accepted that it really really wanted to show space above chapter headings & let it do that.

[Jabby]

Originally Posted by theducks

I did not define h2 as it's own box(block), so outer styles are inherited.
Inserting display: block;into the style may settle things out.

Thanks for the help ducks! I now know more about this stuff than I understand.

This where I ended up, and intend to stay:
.nolines{display:inline}
<body class="nolines"
<h3 class="nolines"
Both have to be there.

Regards - John

[theducks]

Originally Posted by Jabby

Thanks for the help ducks! I now know more about this stuff than I understand.

This where I ended up, and intend to stay:
.nolines{display:inline}
<body class="nolines"
<h3 class="nolines"
Both have to be there.

Regards - John

Is there some stray <p>&nbsp;</p> or similar between the <body> and the first <h#> ? (or <div> or <br /> )
That just isn't right