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However I'd rather see a working DRM like DVDs than have what we have today, and ignoring DRM is just a naive attitude. IDPF should have addressed this when it created the ePUB standard especially if it was being touted as an Open format. Quote:
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The former just have tests to validate software and/or hardware to make sure one is compliant. Quote:
I honestly believe an extensions solution would be a nightmare. I can honestly not imaging trying to explain this to anybody that is not technical in nature. I understand where your coming from but instead of patching something that is broken I say fix what is broken. ePUB v2.0 needs to come out and address the ePUB branding issues and DRM issues. A consumer should not have to worry about the source of where they bought the ePUB they should be able to buy an ePUB from any source and play it on any source that supports ePUB. Just like a DVD. Quote:
I can't blame Adobe that is just smart, and in the end it does not really mess up the consumer they still get what ultimately matters most to them content! =X= Last edited by =X=; 04-27-2009 at 11:57 AM. Reason: Added some before author and publishers as I realize there are some good hearted pubs and authors. :) |
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Actually, computers should stop assuming that "extension is everything". TIFFs and AVIs are containers with a single extension and lots of possible content, knowledgeable software knows (or should know) how to manage this, I don't see why it should be different with ePUB.
I agree it is going to be a problem for users if the same "name" is used for different incompatible DRMed formats, but it shouldn't be a problem for the software. |
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You are right - but is it really the fault of the format? I don't think so. It seems that i've more technical reasons (point of view of a software developer) to criticize the ePub-specification. Despite that i think developers could implement a good and standard conforming implementation for ePub-reading software even if there are some features outlined in the specification which can be very hard to implement on mobile devices. Adobes (+Sonys) implementation isn't as good as it could/should be and i don't know any other useable implementation at the moment. We just need more ePub-reading software. LIT/Mobi had the same problems at the beginning - initially there weren't any other reading software available than those from Mobipocket (mobi) and Microsoft (lit). |
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ePUB today is too flexibility. SONY's file limitation should not have happened. The spec should have provided for these memory constrained devices or excluded them form supporting ePUB. Quote:
ePUB does not benefit from this and with a very loosely defined standard I see a bumpy road for ePUB. I really want ePUB to succeed but fear without a conforming ePUB standard there will be many solutions of ePUB that will not work different devices. |
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It's just that we have enough issues with DRM as it is and a fairly tall tower of eBable. We don't need Fictionwise screwing with what could be the eBook standard and making it so confusing that it never does become the standard.
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Actually, it is the case for Mobipocket. Some devices have an older version of Mobipocket Reader that will not work well or at all with current version Mobipocket files.
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As for DRM incompatibilities, DRM by its very nature has to be incompatible. If we had a DRM scheme was not incompatible across devices and software implementations, it would be like a PDF password. DRM stands for Digital RIghts Management which means that publishers want to be able to manage what you are allowed to do with the book. If a DRM scheme allows a book to be used in many different software programs and devices, it is completely failing to provide any management. As for the question of extensions, I think having one extension with various incompatible DRM schemes is an excellent thing. The time of ebooks and EPUB has come, nothing is going to stop them. This sort of craziness will hurt only one thig, DRM. |
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You could be right, I'm not entirely sure.
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Well, maybe not "excellent" (at least not for consumers) but my thoughts are very similiar to yours.
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What I'm talking about is current solutions. SONY is not obsolete in fact it's the only eInk device that supports ePUB. Yet there are ePubs that will not work with SONY. Quote:
I want ePUB to succeed esp since it has done a good job for the most part, but I find it failing in some key areas. Which leads to abuse from companies, the very nature of this post is an example. What I'm gripping about is for the ePUB standard to fix this to prevent future abuse, or future misinterpretation of standards. For me it's not so much SONY's 300KB file size limit that cause me concern, itt's the failed expectation that as long as I have an ePUB file I can read it on any ePUB device. Quote:
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With this I somewhat agree. The epub spec has too many sections that start with "can" and end with "don't have to". But as Sorotokin said in a thread here on mobileread, when you're creating a standard you can't just do what you think is best; there are politics involved. There are a lot of members in the IDPF, and some kind of consensus has to be reached.
This is silly. You can't just proclaim that all devices should parse content files of unlimited length because every device is memory constrained in some way. And yet you cannot pigeonhole the standard to 2007 and set arbitrary limits on content files. Ten years from now (probably a lot sooner) even embedded devices will have more than enough resources to parse any kind of epub file, so such limitations would be a hindrance. |
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