When will 2010 versions be released

Dawgmatix · 08-10-2010, 05:08 PM

Kindle just released their refresh for this year with the graphite kindles. Any idea on when the Sony refresh is due? I am particularly looking for at the Sony 900 equivalent for this year.

grooks · 08-10-2010, 05:11 PM

Sony's new models are typically announced around Sept/Oct each year.

slantybard · 08-12-2010, 03:38 PM

you might want to read this post and its comments:

http://www.teleread.com/2010/08/12/s...fore-art-thou/

Wetdogeared · 08-12-2010, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slantybard

you might want to read this post and its comments:

http://www.teleread.com/2010/08/12/s...fore-art-thou/

I agree that a commitment to existing Sony readers would go a long way in keeping any customer loyalty.

Quote:

First, is put out a firmware update for all of its already sold and available devices that updates the ePub DRM schema. Sony owners need to know that Sony is not asleep and that it is committed to the ePub standard and the way to do this is to release an update that will allow Sony owners to access the B&N ebookstore without stripping DRM.

...and allow right justification of text.

rebarnmom · 08-12-2010, 06:25 PM

... and a DICTIONARY for the PRS-700!

Hello Sony! If anyone is out there, I'm still waiting... and hoping... and waiting... and dreaming... and waiting... and growing impatient...

kartu · 08-13-2010, 03:10 AM

350 and 650 models coming "soon".

Quote:

The two new Sony Reader devices will be very attractively priced, and are definitely much more compact and lighter than previous models with a possible width under 10mm (extremely thin). From what we’re hearing the new models will also have improved contrast and faster page turns. The PRS-650 will have a six inch screen while the PRS-350 will have a five inch screen. There will also be a bump in capacity from the usual 512MB or less found in currently Sony Reader models to 2GB of internal storage. We are not sure if that capacity bump extends to both devices, but will most certainly be true for the PRS-650. We also know that the PRS-650 will have Wi-Fi (and possibly free 3G), while the PRS-350 will not have any wireless connectivity (like the PRS-300).

As for the software side of things, the Sony Reader UI in both devices has been revised with a new home interface, and the note-taking software (found in the PRS-600) will trickle down and now be available in the PRS-350 as well. Battery life will probably be the same as previous models at nearly two weeks (or perhaps a bit higher), and other features such as USB 2.0 and Adobe PDF, Microsoft Word, BBeB Book, ePub/ACS4 and Adobe Digital Edition format compatibility will return. As for aesthetics, we see that the same colors as before should be available for both series.

vxf · 08-13-2010, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kartu

350 and 650 models coming "soon".

It's good to have news - but that's also disappointing. I was hoping SONY would release a large-screen reader to compete with the Kindle DX. I want a large screen touchscreen device so I can read and annotate PDFs - and I was hoping SONY was going in that direction.

Too bad...

SkyDream · 08-13-2010, 12:52 PM

Me too

I want a Sony DXG

jswinden · 08-13-2010, 02:48 PM

I would take that article with a grain of salt. Sounds like more speculation than anything. If Sony is going to release a 650 with WiFi and/or 3G it will have to be approved by the FCC and the last time I checked they had no new reader devices submitted to the FCC.

And if Sony is going to introduce two more touch screen models, they will effectively place themselves out of the competition. The touchscreen technology Sony uses is terrible for reading. Unless these touchscreens are completely redesigned so as to cause no added glare and reflection, which is unlikely, they will not find a large market. I kept my 300 and got rid of my 600 and 900 because I got eye distress after reading the on the latter two for more than 10 minutes. The touchscreen is convenient for highlighting etc., but I find that my Kindle is much easier on the eyes and I can select text almost as fast with it as on the Sony touchscreens. E-Ink screens are not fast enough in refreshing to make a touchscreen usable IMO as there is too much lag time. Plus having to use a stylus is a pain and I had to use a stylus because fingers don't work well on Sony touchscreens.

vxf · 08-13-2010, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jswinden

I would take that article with a grain of salt. Sounds like more speculation than anything. If Sony is going to release a 650 with WiFi and/or 3G it will have to be approved by the FCC and the last time I checked they had no new reader devices submitted to the FCC.

And if Sony is going to introduce two more touch screen models, they will effectively place themselves out of the competition. The touchscreen technology Sony uses is terrible for reading. Unless these touchscreens are completely redesigned so as to cause no added glare and reflection, which is unlikely, they will not find a large market. I kept my 300 and got rid of my 600 and 900 because I got eye distress after reading the on the latter two for more than 10 minutes. The touchscreen is convenient for highlighting etc., but I find that my Kindle is much easier on the eyes and I can select text almost as fast with it as on the Sony touchscreens. E-Ink screens are not fast enough in refreshing to make a touchscreen usable IMO as there is too much lag time. Plus having to use a stylus is a pain and I had to use a stylus because fingers don't work well on Sony touchscreens.

I agree SONY's touchscreens are not the most readable e-ink devices... yet, depending on applications, you just might not have a choice.

Most of my reading is academic - mostly PDFs. If I cannot annotate (freehand) then it's useless to me. Now, I know, to each their own... but I want a large-screen touchscreen. Right now, the only one I know of is the iRex, but I have multiple reasons for not wanting that device.

jashsu · 08-13-2010, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vxf

I agree SONY's touchscreens are not the most readable e-ink devices... yet, depending on applications, you just might not have a choice.

Most of my reading is academic - mostly PDFs. If I cannot annotate (freehand) then it's useless to me. Now, I know, to each their own... but I want a large-screen touchscreen. Right now, the only one I know of is the iRex, but I have multiple reasons for not wanting that device.

The problem with touchscreens is they can either be glossy and let through the full clarity of the e-ink underneath or be matte and suppress unwanted reflections/glare. Both approaches have their pros and cons.

The only way to implement a pen input without a cover layer is to use something like Wacom's penabled technology, which uses electric fields to sense the pen, but that technology has the downside of dramatically higher energy drain. Not to mention dragging a stylus directly across the surface of an e-ink display is probably a bad idea.

yts06mgr · 08-14-2010, 12:21 AM

If Sony can pull out a 6" Reader with the screen quality of equal or better than PRS-505 and full touch screen, I am sold. 3G and wifi are not necessary, just make it simple, light and compact. Add a French dictionary and I don't mind paying $200. My bet on new Sony Readers this year is no glare touch screen. If Sony ever uses current touch screen technology, it'd be suicidal.

HarryT · 08-14-2010, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jashsu

The only way to implement a pen input without a cover layer is to use something like Wacom's penabled technology, which uses electric fields to sense the pen, but that technology has the downside of dramatically higher energy drain.

That's something of an exaggeration. I have a couple of different readers with Wacom screens. They use a little power, yet, but not enough to be noticeable compared to the power consumption of the rest of the device.

Quote:

Not to mention dragging a stylus directly across the surface of an e-ink display is probably a bad idea.

You're not doing. All reading devices have a thick plastic outer screen on top of the glass eInk display.

fafaforza · 08-16-2010, 05:07 PM

It does suck that Sony seems to have their readers on the back shelf. It wouldn't cost them much to add a dictionary to the 505, more fonts, right justification, etc. Just enough to keep people interested Instead, the Kindle has those features, and got the jump on them with the Pearl screen.

The main aspect of the 505 that's keeping me in the Sony camp is the ability to slip it into the back pocket of my pants, even with the cover. So I'm holding out to see what Sony comes out with.

But their lack of updates does suck, and for those that have bags to carry their readers around, I don't see much reason not to get a Kindle instead. You have a huge bookseller behind your device where books is most of their business, instead of a device maker that could get out of the business any time.

mpd123 · 08-16-2010, 05:30 PM

having read the article and the comments here i would like to add that any new sony device would have to be very very good for me to give up my 505.I have added the prs + hack and have a device that does exactly what i want it to do.
the major thing for me would be the touch screen .having borrowed a friends for an hour i just could not concentrate on the text because of the glare and reflection.sony would really need to fix this

cheers ,mick

08-10-2010, 05:08 PM	#1
Dawgmatix Member Posts: 17 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: none	When will 2010 versions be released Kindle just released their refresh for this year with the graphite kindles. Any idea on when the Sony refresh is due? I am particularly looking for at the Sony 900 equivalent for this year.

08-13-2010, 02:48 PM	#9
jswinden Nameless Being	I would take that article with a grain of salt. Sounds like more speculation than anything. If Sony is going to release a 650 with WiFi and/or 3G it will have to be approved by the FCC and the last time I checked they had no new reader devices submitted to the FCC. And if Sony is going to introduce two more touch screen models, they will effectively place themselves out of the competition. The touchscreen technology Sony uses is terrible for reading. Unless these touchscreens are completely redesigned so as to cause no added glare and reflection, which is unlikely, they will not find a large market. I kept my 300 and got rid of my 600 and 900 because I got eye distress after reading the on the latter two for more than 10 minutes. The touchscreen is convenient for highlighting etc., but I find that my Kindle is much easier on the eyes and I can select text almost as fast with it as on the Sony touchscreens. E-Ink screens are not fast enough in refreshing to make a touchscreen usable IMO as there is too much lag time. Plus having to use a stylus is a pain and I had to use a stylus because fingers don't work well on Sony touchscreens. Last edited by jswinden; 08-13-2010 at 02:50 PM.

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grooks Wizard Posts: 1,326 Karma: 30250 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fort Myers, FL Device: Pocketbook Era, Kobo Forma	Sony's new models are typically announced around Sept/Oct each year.

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slantybard my parent's oops... Posts: 466 Karma: 1477570 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Vx->Handera->Clie-> Axim->505->650->KPW/Aura ->iOS/L2	you might want to read this post and its comments: http://www.teleread.com/2010/08/12/s...fore-art-thou/

08-12-2010, 06:25 PM	#5
rebarnmom Wizard Posts: 1,289 Karma: 4525055 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: rural Illinois, USA Device: Sony PRS-700 (traded in), Sony PRS-650	... and a DICTIONARY for the PRS-700! Hello Sony! If anyone is out there, I'm still waiting... and hoping... and waiting... and dreaming... and waiting... and growing impatient...

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08-14-2010, 12:21 AM	#12
yts06mgr Nameless Being	If Sony can pull out a 6" Reader with the screen quality of equal or better than PRS-505 and full touch screen, I am sold. 3G and wifi are not necessary, just make it simple, light and compact. Add a French dictionary and I don't mind paying $200. My bet on new Sony Readers this year is no glare touch screen. If Sony ever uses current touch screen technology, it'd be suicidal.

08-16-2010, 05:07 PM	#14
fafaforza Zealot Posts: 140 Karma: 26780 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brooklyn, NY Device: Aura ONE	It does suck that Sony seems to have their readers on the back shelf. It wouldn't cost them much to add a dictionary to the 505, more fonts, right justification, etc. Just enough to keep people interested Instead, the Kindle has those features, and got the jump on them with the Pearl screen. The main aspect of the 505 that's keeping me in the Sony camp is the ability to slip it into the back pocket of my pants, even with the cover. So I'm holding out to see what Sony comes out with. But their lack of updates does suck, and for those that have bags to carry their readers around, I don't see much reason not to get a Kindle instead. You have a huge bookseller behind your device where books is most of their business, instead of a device maker that could get out of the business any time.

08-16-2010, 05:30 PM	#15
mpd123 Zealot Posts: 115 Karma: 8038 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: liverpool Device: kobo glo / samsung note 10.1	having read the article and the comments here i would like to add that any new sony device would have to be very very good for me to give up my 505.I have added the prs + hack and have a device that does exactly what i want it to do. the major thing for me would be the touch screen .having borrowed a friends for an hour i just could not concentrate on the text because of the glare and reflection.sony would really need to fix this cheers ,mick

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