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Old 05-30-2010, 04:41 AM   #61
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Does anyone else get the feeling that Mother Earth

is bleeding?

We treat this earth as if it belongs to somebody else.

Cheers

That is a very apt description. First we broke the land, then we broke the sky. Now we have broken the ocean. My heart is breaking more every day.

Does anyone have the "Power Save" home solar power system? Do you like it? Is there a better setup?
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That is a very apt description. First we broke the land, then we broke the sky. Now we have broken the ocean. My heart is breaking more every day.

Does anyone have the "Power Save" home solar power system? Do you like it? Is there a better setup?

Don't forget BP make Solar Panels ... under BP Solar USA
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Old 05-30-2010, 10:05 AM   #65
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He said the decision was made following a significant review by a "brain trust of engineers and scientists" from BP, the industry, and the U.S. Department of Energy and Interior.


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me thinks Pandora's Box has been well and truely breeched .....
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Old 05-30-2010, 11:28 AM   #69
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But can we survive without oil ?

This is a list of some of the products made from oil. Nearly everything in our lives is made from oil, made by machinery and systems dependent on oil, and transported by oil as either gas or diesel fuel.

Ammonia, Anesthetics, Antihistamines, Artificial limbs, Artificial Turf, Antiseptics, Aspirin, Auto Parts, Awnings, Balloons, Ballpoint pens, Bandages, Beach Umbrellas, Boats, Cameras, Candles, Car Battery Cases, Carpets, Caulking, Combs, Cortisones, Cosmetics, Crayons, Credit Cards, Curtains, Deodorants, Detergents, Dice, Disposable Diapers, Dolls, Dyes, Eye Glasses, Electrical Wiring Insulation, Faucet Washers, Fishing Rods, Fishing Line, Fishing Lures, Food Preservatives, Food Packaging, Garden Hose, Glue, Hair Coloring, Hair Curlers, Hand Lotion, Hearing Aids, Heart Valves, Ink, Insect Repellant, Insecticides, Linoleum, Lip Stick, Milk Jugs, Nail Polish, Oil Filters, Panty Hose, Perfume, Petroleum Jelly, Rubber Cement, Rubbing Alcohol, Shampoo, Shaving Cream, Shoes, Toothpaste, Trash Bags, Upholstery, Vitamin Capsules, Water Pipes, Yarn


In reality, when you consider what is produced through the refinement process, it is hard to imagine another substance on the planet that can result in as many different products as does crude oil when refined. There is no exaggeration in saying that crude oil -- after refinement -- touches nearly every area of a person’s life … indeed, in many different ways.
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Old 05-30-2010, 11:41 AM   #70
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Gulf of Mexico oil leak 'worst US environment disaster' BBC link
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I was curious how the UK news was treating it, seeing as how it is British and all.
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I was curious how the UK news was treating it, seeing as how it is British and all.
It has been covered regularly on news programmes, and there was a 30 min BBC radio documentary (I think that's playable anywhere) as part of 'The Report' series:

"As the political fallout from the Deepwater Horizon oil slick in the Gulf of Mexico tarnishes BP's reputation in the United States, Simon Cox asks whether the British oil giant could have done more to ensure the safety of its operations.
Five years after BP were landed multi-million dollar fines for a catastrophic explosion at a refinery in Texas, some politicians and environmentalists think BP has not done enough to clean up its act in the US."
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BP Solar is a leading producer of solar panels since its purchase of Lucas Energy Systems in 1980 and Solarex (as part of its acquisition of Amoco) in 2000. BP Solar had a 20% world market share in photovoltaic panels in 2004 when it had a capacity to produce 90 MW/year of panels. It has over 30 years experience operating in over 160 countries with manufacturing facilities in the U.S., Spain, India and Australia and has more than 2000 employees worldwide. Through a series of acquisitions in the solar power industry BP Solar became the third largest producer of solar panels in the world. It was recently announced that BP has obtained a contract for a pilot project to provide on-site solar power to Wal-mart stores. In the 2006 annual report Lord Browne noted that BP now has a total wind generation capacity of nearly 15,000 megawatts. 15,000 megawatts would be sufficient to provide power to approximately 15,000,000 typical American households simultaneously. This makes BP one of the largest generators of wind power in the world.
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But can we survive without oil ?

This is a list of some of the products made from oil. Nearly everything in our lives is made from oil, made by machinery and systems dependent on oil, and transported by oil as either gas or diesel fuel.

Ammonia, Anesthetics, Antihistamines, Artificial limbs, Artificial Turf, Antiseptics, Aspirin, Auto Parts, Awnings, Balloons, Ballpoint pens, Bandages, Beach Umbrellas, Boats, Cameras, Candles, Car Battery Cases, Carpets, Caulking, Combs, Cortisones, Cosmetics, Crayons, Credit Cards, Curtains, Deodorants, Detergents, Dice, Disposable Diapers, Dolls, Dyes, Eye Glasses, Electrical Wiring Insulation, Faucet Washers, Fishing Rods, Fishing Line, Fishing Lures, Food Preservatives, Food Packaging, Garden Hose, Glue, Hair Coloring, Hair Curlers, Hand Lotion, Hearing Aids, Heart Valves, Ink, Insect Repellant, Insecticides, Linoleum, Lip Stick, Milk Jugs, Nail Polish, Oil Filters, Panty Hose, Perfume, Petroleum Jelly, Rubber Cement, Rubbing Alcohol, Shampoo, Shaving Cream, Shoes, Toothpaste, Trash Bags, Upholstery, Vitamin Capsules, Water Pipes, Yarn


In reality, when you consider what is produced through the refinement process, it is hard to imagine another substance on the planet that can result in as many different products as does crude oil when refined. There is no exaggeration in saying that crude oil -- after refinement -- touches nearly every area of a person’s life … indeed, in many different ways.
Yes, but the amount which is required for fuel is extraordinarily high. The bottom line is still 'gelt'.
Why do I get the feeling that if 'free energy' were discovered tomorrow, the discoverer would meet with an unlikely 'accident', as did Tesla, and so many others?

'Tis indeed a puzzlement.

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Well, there is a lot of money in the oil market, and there probably will be for some time. If someone did announce a discover of "Free Energy" it would have to be made in a very, very public manner and he would probably need a large security team for sure, but it wouldn't revolutionize anything for at least 50(note: this is an OOAN) years. I say this because it takes time to manufacture methods of using this "free energy" and it takes money to buy these things. And some people just like what they know, so such a thing would be amazing, but it would take a while to catch on.
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