Anybody see Anonymous?

covingtoncat73 · 11-30-2011, 08:04 PM

I have to say that I am a adamant Stratfordian and this was certainly not history but it was an excellent movie. I only wanted to throw tomatoes at the screen a couple of times. Rhys Ifans was amazing and so was the guy playing Ben Johnson. My only problem is people, being people, are going to believe this as fact instead of fiction.

Fact: Shakespeare went to Grammar School. This meant Latin grammar. It was actually more of an education than elementary schools today, at least in certain subjects. The man could certainly read and write.

Fact: The man had a son named Hamnet (that's only one letter off, you know)!

I am not much of a scholar but those more scholarly than I have made more/better arguments why Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare. I think the Oxfordians and other anti-Stratfordian camps believe what they believe because they want someone more glamourous to have written those plays. They can't believe an ordinary, middle-class guy could do it. You don't have to be it or know it first-hand to write it or they would be no Sci-Fi and Fantasy.

Anyway, it was a beautifully made movie despite the premise.

CazMar · 11-30-2011, 08:35 PM

If you enjoy this movie then you might also like this ebook:
The Playmakers". I haven't seen the movie but it sounds very similar, with Marlowe as the secret author.
I agree that the most likely author was Shakespeare, but it makes for a good story! Historical mysteries are always good fun and often written by authors who studied the period at university and have a lot of research material on hand - well, it's one way of making some money out of all that work!

covingtoncat73 · 11-30-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CazMar

If you enjoy this movie then you might also like this ebook:
The Playmakers". I haven't seen the movie but it sounds very similar, with Marlowe as the secret author.
I agree that the most likely author was Shakespeare, but it makes for a good story! Historical mysteries are always good fun and often written by authors who studied the period at university and have a lot of research material on hand - well, it's one way of making some money out of all that work!

Oh, I agree. I had a history prof who would assign one historical fiction among the scholarly readings per semester.

wodin · 11-30-2011, 08:37 PM

Would that be Stratford on Avon, or Stratford, Ontario?

covingtoncat73 · 11-30-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wodin

Would that be Stratford on Avon, or Stratford, Ontario?

LOL. I'm only Stratfordian as in someone who believes the guy from the Stratford on the Avon wrote the Shakespeare plays.

MJK2111 · 12-01-2011, 10:25 AM

If somebody saw Anonymous, and actually knew it was Anonymous, wouldn't he then cease to be "Anonymous?"

11-30-2011, 08:04 PM	#1
covingtoncat73 Wizard Posts: 2,745 Karma: 83407757 Join Date: Mar 2011 Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Lenovo Duet Chromebook, Moto e	Anybody see Anonymous? I have to say that I am a adamant Stratfordian and this was certainly not history but it was an excellent movie. I only wanted to throw tomatoes at the screen a couple of times. Rhys Ifans was amazing and so was the guy playing Ben Johnson. My only problem is people, being people, are going to believe this as fact instead of fiction. Fact: Shakespeare went to Grammar School. This meant Latin grammar. It was actually more of an education than elementary schools today, at least in certain subjects. The man could certainly read and write. Fact: The man had a son named Hamnet (that's only one letter off, you know)! I am not much of a scholar but those more scholarly than I have made more/better arguments why Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare. I think the Oxfordians and other anti-Stratfordian camps believe what they believe because they want someone more glamourous to have written those plays. They can't believe an ordinary, middle-class guy could do it. You don't have to be it or know it first-hand to write it or they would be no Sci-Fi and Fantasy. Anyway, it was a beautifully made movie despite the premise.

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CazMar Book Geek Posts: 596 Karma: 1499085 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Adelaide, Australia Device: Kobo Touch, Asus MemPad 7" tablet, Nexus 5, Asus 10" tablet	If you enjoy this movie then you might also like this ebook: The Playmakers". I haven't seen the movie but it sounds very similar, with Marlowe as the secret author. I agree that the most likely author was Shakespeare, but it makes for a good story! Historical mysteries are always good fun and often written by authors who studied the period at university and have a lot of research material on hand - well, it's one way of making some money out of all that work!

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